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UPennChem said:
Fair point. I just can neither be confident or unconfident because we have 0 NFL data on MM.
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If Michigan is any indication, there’s less schemed up pressure and more reliance on guys winning their one on one battles. You’ll still see some schemed up pressure but it isn’t the basis of the D based on what we saw at Michigan.
 
Simba said:
If Michigan is any indication, there’s less schemed up pressure and more reliance on guys winning their one on one battles. You’ll still see some schemed up pressure but it isn’t the basis of the D based on what we saw at Michigan.
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Naively, isn't that going to probably be better for guys like Oweh but worse for guys like Key?
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
It helps long term; they got a fucking haul for him and cleared a ton of cap.

It’s unfortunate as fuck but the ravens are gonna have to take this approach soon as well. I’m still hoping cross falls to us so we can pull a similar trade with Stanley in a year or two.
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ehh, I don't think its close to same situation. Tyreke is going to get like $30M a year on a new deal... we don't have anybody in the stratosphere of that. Hollywood will probably get half of that.

More like the Chiefs are valuing protecting Mahomes over a single playmaker outside, i.e. they'll extend Orlando Brown at ~$20M a year rather than paying Tyreke 30.

And yes, they'll likely be rebuilding their defense.
 
Simba said:
If Michigan is any indication, there’s less schemed up pressure and more reliance on guys winning their one on one battles. You’ll still see some schemed up pressure but it isn’t the basis of the D based on what we saw at Michigan.
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But didnt they basically have the two best pass rushers in college? Shouldnt even have to scheme
 
Arden Key is interesting. primarily a 3rd down pass rush sub for San Fran last year. Whats interesting is that he is rushing from the inside,(as Bosa/Alexander are outside for SF). He had success inside on passing downs but was an edge guy coming out. He could be a two way player here in Baltimore.

Now, my sense is that you dont him playing inside on run downs but with either Pierce and perhaps Jordan inside helping to stop the run and getting after the pocket on 3rd down, you could move him inside and have Oweh and Ebuketie ( yes I presume a lot) pressuring outside.

Oweh....Davis....Key.....Ebukeitie ...pipe dream perhaps but those are my thoughts on key.
 
Edgar said:
Arden Key is interesting. primarily a 3rd down pass rush sub for San Fran last year. Whats interesting is that he is rushing from the inside,(as Bosa/Alexander are outside for SF). He had success inside on passing downs but was an edge guy coming out. He could be a two way player here in Baltimore.

Now, my sense is that you dont him playing inside on run downs but with either Pierce and perhaps Jordan inside helping to stop the run and getting after the pocket on 3rd down, you could move him inside and have Oweh and Ebuketie ( yes I presume a lot) pressuring outside.

Oweh....Davis....Key.....Ebukeitie ...pipe dream perhaps but those are my thoughts on key.
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Whose ebuketie
 
UPennChem said:
Now I'm just fundamentally not qualified to say whether I think Linderbaum is a guy who makes sense for the Ravens, is good or bad value, has a high ceiling etc etc.

But with that being said, I can understand the Ravens feeling ok to have Mekari at C because well they've played him there before. The thing is though, by doing that you're totally removing your 5 spot back up and swing T from being available to play that role.

It's possible they also feel TCC is classic 80 20 rule with Bozeman even though given what Bozeman got that's probably literally impossible.

Which leaves your last option which is Linderbaum or a Guard they think they convert. If it's Linderbaum he's the day one starter. If it's a guard they want to convert that couldn't possibly be a day one starter and that means your back to Mekari/ TCC.

I don't see for next year game one any option other than Mekari, TCC, Linderbaum.
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may just be an indicator also that they know they're going to draft a tackle - mekari the C and then they "replace" his ability to swing with a rookie tackle with some swing value

if a tackle goes down, either the rookie or james steps in or mekari shifts out and TCC comes in - it is reliant on finding an OT with some swing tackle traits

if they take linderbaum then that's cool - ill believe it when i see it
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
I wonder if salyer is being seriously viewed as a C?
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ive not seen it mentioned anywhere and notable that he didnt get any C reps at the senior bowl
i just find it odd because he's actually played C (albeit in 2019) and was one of the backup Cs for georgia most of his career...

but literally nothing anywhere
 
rmcjacket23 said:
Option 4: you take somebody on day 2, who could easily start week 1. Not sure why that's being discounted so much.

I understand some people think this is a "weak Center draft class", and maybe it is, but that doesn't mean there's no good Centers coming out, and it doesn't mean the people that think that way are right either.

Historically, it's not like it requires a first round pick to get a great Center either. It's not a position a lot of teams would usually consider using a top 15 pick on to begin with.

So its entirely possible that their approach to Center is TCC + Mekari + maybe a day 2 draft pick, all competing for the job. My guess is that if the Ravens were actually serious about their hatred of draft picks at Center, and given that they can't even guarantee they'll land Linderbaum to begin with, they would have probably already targeted somebody in FA and signed them.
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this is the 2nd time you've said this - who is that day 2 option?
at the moment, at best i can see someone like cole strange or maybe dylan parham being late day 2 options and maybe brock hoffman on day 3

unless we're looking to convert zion johnson from guard but he wont make it anywhere near our 2nd rounder

the majority of center options in this draft just aren't fits scheme-wise, traits-wise or threshold-wise for what the ravens historically look for at the position
 
Anyone else getting concerned on Brown’s next deal based on these recent WR extensions? I know Brown isn’t Hill nor Adams but I legit think he will either be out of our price range at above 20min or will not be a tag option depending on Lamar because he could eat up those tags.
 
rossihunter2 said:
this is the 2nd time you've said this - who is that day 2 option?
at the moment, at best i can see someone like cole strange or maybe dylan parham being late day 2 options and maybe brock hoffman on day 3

unless we're looking to convert zion johnson from guard but he wont make it anywhere near our 2nd rounder

the majority of center options in this draft just aren't fits scheme-wise, traits-wise or threshold-wise for what the ravens historically look for at the position
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I love Zion. I would trade up for Mt Zion.
 
Simba said:
If Michigan is any indication, there’s less schemed up pressure and more reliance on guys winning their one on one battles. You’ll still see some schemed up pressure but it isn’t the basis of the D based on what we saw at Michigan.
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and based on what he's said himself
 
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