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Yea, I don't have an answer, but I prefer our current sustainability model. We are very spoiled as a fan base. We've been relevant in the playoff discussion since 2006, with the exceptions of 07 and 15.

The Rams are one example, but I'd also include the Bucs in that conversation during their super bowl.
Both teams, this year, are examples of when you do the "all in" mentality, you're usually lacking in depth. Both teams struggle with depth (and in particular, starters for the Rams) on the Oline, and both teams need strong Oline play.
 
*exasperated sigh*. It's literally the job of the fucking NFL GM to put together a roster that makes sense. He didn't do that at WR, EDGE, or RB. And the on top of that ILB was very weak.

With WRs there were any number of options. Don't trade Hollywood. Take George Pickens. Sign Juju. Trade for cooks before the deadline where you could restructure. Trade for Terry McLaurin. Trade for AJ Brown. Trade for DK. I can keep going.

Some of those things were extremely possible. Some of things did happen just by other teams. Some didn't happen but maybe should've happened despite the high cost. Idk exactly what the options were and costs because I don't get to see behind the scenes. But trotting out Bateman, Duv, Proche, Wallace, and DRob is disgusting. Batemans out and now you have only one WR2/3. Yep obviously that was the move. But that's how the draft board falls sometime. Foh

Again though even your options do not really make sense so a GM can only do what the offseason and draft allow him to do. 1 year of Hollywood is less valuable than 5 years of Linderbaum (who is a far better player). The Ravens did not have the cap room to trade for Brown nor did they want to give up both their 1st round picks (so both Hamilton and Linderbaum) to trade for Metcalf then have to pay him 24m per year which mean no other free agents as well, so now it is no Hamilton, Linderbaum, and Williams to have an AJ Brown or Metcalf.

The fact that Cooks, who has a contract that pays him like a 1 when he is a decent 2, was being pitched for a 1st only should say how unrealistic a trade is. Everyone says "why did you not fix it" but no one thinks about the cost of fixing it. There simply are not good options unless you have the cap space to pay a number 1, the Ravens do not, or are willing to drastically overpay in a trade, typically bad long term, which basically leaves needing to draft them, but that makes you a slave to how the board falls.
 
I would take a down year to have multiple up years and have playoff success. And it's not like we go 14-2, 13-3, 12-4 every year either, so do we really have a lot of regular season success even? I don't live for mediocrity unlike obviously some of you do.
we are 38-19 (66% win rate) since the 2019 season began and that includes 5 games without Lamar at the end of last season. That win rate is one of the best in the league. Subtract the games without Lamar in December and January last season and we are 38-13 (74% win rate).
 
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If we forget about the rams, name a team that’s had more success with the “all-in” model.
Success is relative as well. We've been highly successful maintaining a competitive team with realistic shot to make the playoffs. I have no idea when it changed , but now its championship or bust in sports which is really a shame. Discredits a lot of handwork and fun through out the year.
 
All to see what? Most honest people know this already.

You know why we didn't win between 2013-2018? Because Joe got paid a lot to be exactly who Joe always was, i.e. a mediocre regular season QB. And the supporting cast around him wasn't good enough to elevate him like it was his first five years. So, we lost, and lost a lot.

2019 and 2020 should have gone better, and 2021 was a fucking joke of a disaster for basically the second half of the season.

So basically, everybody can reasonably bitch about two years of the last like ten. Everything else the fans wanted, asked for, and got what they wanted. Lots of people on this very board wanted Joe signed long term. Got what you wanted.
He was looking for a big mic drop moment lol
 
Success is relative as well. We've been highly successful maintaining a competitive team with realistic shot to make the playoffs. I have no idea when it changed , but now its championship or bust in sports which is really a shame. Discredits a lot of handwork and fun through out the year.
It’s just the downside of having a team like ours. I’m not even getting excited watching games this year, touchdown celebrations are barely a thing for me anymore and letdowns don’t even bother me for real, like I’ll start getting mad/excited when we reach our elimination games lol.

What I’m not gonna is melt down over week to week changes, because I’ve watched football long enough to know that the nfl this week will not be the nfl next week or the week after. Hell I’m still cool with seeing how the run first and defense first approach works, let it play out because I think now having good OL play and potentially a more modernized defensive scheme and new pass rush talent incoming, might just be a winning formula, and yes that includes having duv as wr1 lol
 
Peyton Manning went many years before he won a playoff game. Does that mean the Colts sucked. Of course not, but you think they did.
We got to stop comparing Peyton and Lamar early career playoff record. Lamar is not that guy an never will be. Peyton's strengths (arm talent/intelligence) improved with time in the league, Lamar's strength(athleticism) will diminish.
 
We got to stop comparing Peyton and Lamar early career playoff record. Lamar is not that guy an never will be. Peyton's strengths (arm talent/intelligence) improved with time in the league, Lamar's strength(athleticism) will diminish.
Fair point but then again Peyton only won one ring in Indy and that was due to his defense finally showing up and absolutely shutting teams down. Seems like Peyton just kept on trucking and the perfect storm finally came along in 06, which is PRECISELY what we and every other contending team is aiming to do lol.

Idk where this idea came from that you need to just buy yourself playoff wins by shipping out all of your draft picks for high dollar trade targets, and any other method just means your gm is an incompetent pussy
 
We got to stop comparing Peyton and Lamar early career playoff record. Lamar is not that guy an never will be. Peyton's strengths (arm talent/intelligence) improved with time in the league, Lamar's strength(athleticism) will diminish.


The play style is different but a case can be made that if they don't perform the team will most likely lose. The regular season success and lack of post season success is what I think draws the comparisons.

The team isn't good enough for him to Joe Flacco his way to a couple wins in the playoffs.
 
we are 38-19 (66% win rate) since the 2019 season began and that includes 5 games without Lamar at the end of last season. That win rate is one of the best in the league. Subtract the games without Lamar in December and January last season and we are 38-13 (74% win rate).

Dear sir, kindly tell me our record in the playoffs since 2013
 
Dear sir, kindly tell me our record in the playoffs since 2013
2-4.

What would be your ideal situation? There's only one team that's sustained a level of play and that's the Chiefs. Name 3 franchises you'd wish to model your vision of "success" after.
 
The team isn't good enough for him to Joe Flacco his way to a couple wins in the playoffs.
Lol imagine Joe with this offense.
 
2-4.

What would be your ideal situation? There's only one team that's sustained a level of play and that's the Chiefs. Name 3 franchises you'd wish to model your vision of "success" after.

I think the ideal situation would be too win better than .33 of my playoff games
 
Dear sir, kindly tell me our record in the playoffs since 2013
kindly tell me who our QB was from 2013-2017 and yes, it's not good since than, but atleast we have been a competitive team for that chunk of time. More than I can say for most of the league.

1-1 in 2014
0-1 in 2018 (when the only reason we got there was due to Lamar)
0-1 in 2019 (we hit the perfect storm)
1-1 in 2020

I'd rather be there and lose, than not be there at all and I'm not worried about 2013-2017 anymore.
 
I think the ideal situation would be too win better than .33 of my playoff games
Name the teams who are consistently making playoffs and their records. It's not common. The Texans were just a perennial playoff team 3 years ago. In 2018 the Falcons were still considered a top NFC team. Last year the apacker were SB contenders. Last year the Eagles were a joke in the NFC. The only 2 teams who have had steady success the past few years are Chiefs and Bills. Where did you have this team ranked at the start of the season? What were your expectations?
 
Name the teams who are consistently making playoffs and their records. It's not common. The Texans were just a perennial playoff team 3 years ago. In 2018 the Falcons were still considered a top NFC team. Last year the apacker were SB contenders. Last year the Eagles were a joke in the NFC. The only 2 teams who have had steady success the past few years are Chiefs and Bills. Where did you have this team ranked at the start of the season? What were your expectations?
nailed it

Sizzle would fire a coach every season if he didn't win a playoff game and hire a college head coach.
 
Might not be a popular opinion but I definitely wouldn't mind seeing TY Hilton in this offense. Y'all carry on with your day now also Charlie Kolar is coming ...


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Definitely would if you have 4 playoff losses and only 2 wins over the past ten years
Probably. Though they'd have fired you from the ability to hire head coaches during that period if that were true. Or they'd have fired you for overreacting.
 
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