Signings, Cuts, Trades

[rmcjacket23]

Who is available at guard tho? Zeitler?

Also I wonder if this is partially because of a move to more of a zone run game? I know Henry is good at those concepts as well

Honestly haven't looked at the Guard market. But Zeitler wasn't on anybodies radar when we signed him either. Could be a guy who hasn't been cut yet.
And its possible that, yes, they just sign Zeitler back for a year or two.

I only say Guard because I seriously doubt EDC goes into the draft needing to fill 3 starting Oline spots.

Plus, as I've alluded to all offseason, I think the FO and coaching staff is either very high on Mekari or Faalele as a RT, or at the very least, extremely confident they can find a starter in the draft.

 

[All_black_everything]

Risner, Zeitler and an injured Connor Williams are the best available options at guard through FA

 

[Grim]

I'm good with Moses out. He wasn't too impressive and he isn't getting any better with age. Just because we didn't have anyone better doesn't mean he was good. Lamar being Lamar masked a lot of deficiencies of our O line, tackle play in particular.

I agree with you. Moses was OK, he wasn't terrible but he wasn't a world-beater. I'm less worried about this. I think IOL is more important at present.

 

[rossihunter2]

I'm good with Moses out. He wasn't too impressive and he isn't getting any better with age. Just because we didn't have anyone better doesn't mean he was good. Lamar being Lamar masked a lot of deficiencies of our O line, tackle play in particular.

his main selling point when we signed him was solid consistency and availability
still played at a high level last year but had troubles staying on the field for the first time in his career and is now more expensive and older

 

[rossihunter2]

Honestly haven't looked at the Guard market. But Zeitler wasn't on anybodies radar when we signed him either. Could be a guy who hasn't been cut yet.
And its possible that, yes, they just sign Zeitler back for a year or two.

I only say Guard because I seriously doubt EDC goes into the draft needing to fill 3 starting Oline spots.

Plus, as I've alluded to all offseason, I think the FO and coaching staff is either very high on Mekari or Faalele as a RT, or at the very least, extremely confident they can find a starter in the draft.

i think the thing with zeitler is, if they were gonna keep him, they would have done it a month ago before his deal voided and it brought a bunch of dead money into this year's cap

 

[Davesta]

EDC has a plan

Faalele SzN

 

[QtR Nevermore]

i think they clearly feel pretty comfortable with the draft class - maybe they reckon it's highly likely that there's going to be a OT top of their board when we get on the clock with our first pick and that failing that, they're comfortable with Mekari/Faalele at RT in the worst case scenario

also notable that a lot of the highly touted OTs in the draft class have been RTs

I agree with that but I still don't like being locked in on one position. I think a lot of teams like this OT class. Will they still be comfortable taking their OT 8 or 9 at 30? Will still they have to go tackle if someone really talented at another position falls to us?

 

[rmcjacket23]

i think the thing with zeitler is, if they were gonna keep him, they would have done it a month ago before his deal voided and it brought a bunch of dead money into this year's cap

I mean maybe, but that's predicated on a price. The longer he sits on the market, the more likely it is he returns. Not saying he will, because I doubt he does, but if he continues to sit on the market for a month or so, you might be signing him for $3-4M a year on a 1-2 year deal. Under that structure, his cap hit this year, even with the dead $, can be like $6M.

 

[rmcjacket23]

I agree with that but I still don't like being locked in on one position. I think a lot of teams like this OT class. Will they still be comfortable taking their OT 8 or 9 at 30? Will still they have to go tackle if someone really talented at another position falls to us?

I don't think they have to take an OT in the first round at all.
If you're aiming on getting a RT for 2024, that's a day 2 or day 3 pick all day long. We've got plenty of quality RTs in the 3rd rounds or later historically, and teams can easily get that.

If you're taking an OT in the first round, you're probably hoping they'll develop into your future LT. But that's not an immediate "need" at this point.

 

[All_black_everything]

So after Stanley, Bowser, Moses and Henry where do we sit cap wise?

 

[allblackraven]

So after Stanley, Bowser, Moses and Henry where do we sit cap wise?

Our nostrils are above the surface.

 

[Deebo813]

I agree with that but I still don't like being locked in on one position. I think a lot of teams like this OT class. Will they still be comfortable taking their OT 8 or 9 at 30? Will still they have to go tackle if someone really talented at another position falls to us?

If we take OT 8 or 9 at 30, that would be wild

 

[All_black_everything]

Our nostrils are above the surface.

I thought so. I was coping with the thoughts of them maybe adding Bosa or Mack when they’re cut but even then, Clowney would probably be cheaper and possibly more productive

 

[Old Bay]

Queen was failing bigly at middle linebacker and was the sole reason why we brought in Roquan. When Roquan stepped in,
Queen flourished. I could have cared less if we kept him BEFORE Roquan got here. He was not that good pre-Roquan .

Exactly. Queen is easily replaceable in my opinion. Hopefully Simpson steps in and takes his spot, but there's also a few decent prospects we can draft.

 

[Davesta]

Ayo, I didn’t know Mekhi Becton was a free agent. He never stayed healthy after that dominant rookie year huh?

Reunite him with Lamar. Maybe Lamar can give him a total gym to shed some pounds

 

[rossihunter2]

I agree with that but I still don't like being locked in on one position. I think a lot of teams like this OT class. Will they still be comfortable taking their OT 8 or 9 at 30? Will still they have to go tackle if someone really talented at another position falls to us?

based on this class id say it's highly likely that we're picking OT 7-9 at pick 30 - and that player is going to be talented

but also dont think they're locked in - think they're fine with mekari/faalele

 

[JO_75]

Faalele SzN

Faalele played well enough when he filled in that I think he's definitely the new starting RT for us. Also, we can slide Mekari inside to Guard leaving only one spot to fill on the line opposed to three.

 

[rossihunter2]

I don't think they have to take an OT in the first round at all.
If you're aiming on getting a RT for 2024, that's a day 2 or day 3 pick all day long. We've got plenty of quality RTs in the 3rd rounds or later historically, and teams can easily get that.

If you're taking an OT in the first round, you're probably hoping they'll develop into your future LT. But that's not an immediate "need" at this point.

i dont think that's true anymore
obviously that franchise LT comes high in the draft but teams will take any tackle prospect regardless of side because you need two anyway
a lot of the guys who might be available late R1 and early R2 are guys who were RTs in college - some will be guys who can convert to the left but many will be right-sided guys

 

[Sandtown]

Exactly. Queen is easily replaceable in my opinion. Hopefully Simpson steps in and takes his spot, but there's also a few decent prospects we can draft.

Queen is a every down inside linebacker if not mistaken. That's not easily replaceable even though the team has options.

 

[rossihunter2]

If we take OT 8 or 9 at 30, that would be wild

it's a wild OT class
insane number of OL with massive grades this year