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Both the Astros and the Red Sox should have their titles stripped. What a terrible message to send. Do whatever it takes to win at all costs.

In my opinion, MLB can go %#@* %#.
 
Dom McRaven said:
Yeah I'm gonna need the commish to justify this after three (I think?) managers and a GM were fired due to this scandal. Essentially what you're saying is that we, the MLB, find these individuals to be guilty but the players still deserve those titles.
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Yeah considering it happened under his watch, he should take a lot of the criticism for allowing it to happen in the first place. He's just not going to do anything really.... he's starting to turn into the Goodell of Baseball.
 
Much like the NBA is considering changes to their playoff format. The MLB is considering expanding the playoffs to 14 teams and giving teams first round byes. If this goes through, this new format would start in the 2022 MLB Season.

  • The teams with the best records in the National League and American League each earn a bye and automatically advance to the division series round.
  • The other two division winners and the top wild-card club in both the AL and NL host best-of-three series against the other three wild-card entrants, with all games played on the top team's turf. (Any ties among non-division winners are broken by head-to-head records with no tiebreaker games played, as noted by Sports Illustrated's Tom Verducci.)
  • Oh, and one more wrinkle: The division winner with the second-best record in each league selects its opponent, then the other division winner picks its opponent and the last two wild cards play each other. Selections are made on national TV.
  • The winners of those series, along with the teams that earned byes, move on to the division series round. From there, the playoffs proceed as normal.
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles...perfect-fix-to-reinvigorate-mlb-for-a-new-era
 
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JO_75 said:
Much like the NBA is considering changes to their playoff format. The MLB is considering expanding the playoffs to 14 teams and giving teams first round byes. If this goes through, this new format would start in the 2022 MLB Season.



https://bleacherreport.com/articles...perfect-fix-to-reinvigorate-mlb-for-a-new-era
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Willbacker said:
He didn't cheat. He gambled which is against the rules but he only bet on his team to win. No influence on the game whatsoever.
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You don't know how it influenced the game any more than I do. Pete Rose said he didn't bet against his team. You are taking his word for it. This is a guy who cheated on his taxes, went to jail for it, financed drug deals and LIED about not betting on baseball for years and years. And you are going to believe him? No way should he ever be in the Hall of Fame.
 
OriolesMagicPlease said:
You don't know how it influenced the game any more than I do. Pete Rose said he didn't bet against his team. You are taking his word for it. This is a guy who cheated on his taxes, went to jail for it, financed drug deals and LIED about not betting on baseball for years and years. And you are going to believe him? No way should he ever be in the Hall of Fame.
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I always thought you was the sweet forgiving type. :whistle:
 
You can see the impact the cheating by the Astros had when you look at the scores of the playoff games and the difference when the game was played in Houston, and when the game was on the road. I get some teams are bad on the road and great at home but those scores definitely tell the story that something was going on behind the scenes.

2017 ALDS: Red Sox vs Astros
Games 1 & 2 in Houston: Astros beat the Redsox 8-2 both games.
Game 3 in Boston: Red Sox win 10-3 over the Astros.
Game 4 in Boston: Astros win 5-4

2017 ALCS: Yankees vs Astros
Games 1 & 2 in Houston: Astros beat Yankees 2-1 in both games.
Game 3 in New York: Yankees win 8-1
Game 4 in New York: Yankees win 6-4
Game 5 in New York: Yankees win 5-0
Game 6 in Houston: Astros win 7-1
Game 7 in Houston: Astros win 4-0
 
RavensMania said:
I agree with Pete Rose not getting in, but Shoeless Joe Jackson should be let in.
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Funny you should bring him up. Rob Manfred is the one keeping Joe Jackson from getting in. Yes, the same Rob Manfred who ignored multiple teams who told him that the Astros were cheating. The same Rob Manfred who conducted an "investigation" of the Astros and found no guilt on their part.

The more I learn about this whole Astros thing the more disgusted I become, especially with MLB and its leadership.
 
OriolesMagicPlease said:
Funny you should bring him up. Rob Manfred is the one keeping Joe Jackson from getting in. Yes, the same Rob Manfred who ignored multiple teams who told him that the Astros were cheating. The same Rob Manfred who conducted an "investigation" of the Astros and found no guilt on their part.

The more I learn about this whole Astros thing the more disgusted I become, especially with MLB and its leadership.
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Yeah, I'm aware he is the one keeping him out and I'm not sure how you find the Astros as having no guilt. It's unthinkable how disgraceful it is that they can keep their title.
 
If this was the Yankees that did this, shhhiittt, it'd be front page everywhere and I bet Manfred would strip the titles then (as he should but still).
 
Dom McRaven said:
If this was the Yankees that did this, shhhiittt, it'd be front page everywhere and I bet Manfred would strip the titles then (as he should but still).
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Manfred doesn't even have respect for the World Series, the World Series Championship and the accomplishment of winning it. No wonder he is trying to destroy the postseason with stupid gimmicks, he doesn't even respect the postseason! By saying that he would be taking a "piece of metal" back... my goodness he managed to surpass Goodell by leaps and bounds as the worst sports commissioner in all major sports.

“The idea of an asterisk or asking for a piece of metal back seems like a futile act. People will always know that something was different about the 2017 season, and whether we made that decision right or wrong, we undertook a thorough investigation, and had the intestinal fortitude to share the results of that investigation, even when those results were not very pretty.”
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https://ftw.usatoday.com/2020/02/mlb-rob-manfred-spits-in-face-of-all-fans
 
Manfred is a complete disgrace. This was going on for YEARS and he did nothing. If it wasn't for the whistle blower, absolutely nothing would have been done at all. Every single player who participated in the cheating should be punished. Immediately ineligible for ever getting into the Hall of Fame. Titles should be taken away. Instead, a few people got fired, big deal.

The World Series title is a HUGE deal, in fact, it is the reason they all play. The 2017 and 2018 World Series titles should remain blank. Manfred is a coward and the opposite of a true leader and he is getting paid $11 million dollars a year for that role. Disgusting!
 
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