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Willbacker

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rossihunter2 said:
if we extend Cj and jimmy and lower their cap hits for next year we probably open up more cap space too
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CJ is a nobrainer since he'll be playing on the 5th yr option but Jimmy's contract I'd leave as is since we've already restructured once and I wouldn't be adding years on by extension since he has had injury problems in the past and still has at least 3 yrs remaining as is
 
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Willbacker said:
CJ is a nobrainer since he'll be playing on the 5th yr option but Jimmy's contract I'd leave as is since we've already restructured once and I wouldn't be adding years on by extension since he has had injury problems in the past and still has at least 3 yrs remaining as is
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if we dont add years by extending him then his cap hit is enormous - we have to extend jimmy and its not like we have to give him a 5 year contract but adding another 2-3 years onto his contract helps both him and us - he gets a new signing bonus and we get to even out his cap hit
 
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rossihunter2 said:
if we dont add years by extending him then his cap hit is enormous - we have to extend jimmy and its not like we have to give him a 5 year contract but adding another 2-3 years onto his contract helps both him and us - he gets a new signing bonus and we get to even out his cap hit
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Went over to OTC and seen he only had 2 more years( thought he had 4 for some reason )on his contract so yes an extension should be in the works and at least 2 yrs but they have to make sure its flatline across the board and not a low cap hit first year. He counts for the next 2 yrs at around 16 mil each. It would be nice with an extension if each year could avg around 12-13 mil range, Its a small savings but more feasible thru the yrs.
 
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Willbacker said:
Went over to OTC and seen he only had 2 more years( thought he had 4 for some reason )on his contract so yes an extension should be in the works and at least 2 yrs but they have to make sure its flatline across the board and not a low cap hit first year. He counts for the next 2 yrs at around 16 mil each. It would be nice with an extension if each year could avg around 12-13 mil range, Its a small savings but more feasible thru the yrs.
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tbh id want more of a front-loaded deal so that he becomes cuttable at the end of his contract if he gets too injured or falls off a cliff but its gotta reduce his cap a little bit at least from next season's cap hit - and it should be 12-13 mill range we paid him like a young in his prime number 1 corner and gave him a deal worth less than 11 mill/year - gotta think that his next deal will be less than 13 as an average if you include inflation by salary cap, his rivals all being around 14 mill per year as an average but also he's older than most of his rivals - and none of them ever accumulate cap hits above 14 mill - he'll be nearly/over 16 mill cap hits the next 2 days
 
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rossihunter2 said:
tbh id want more of a front-loaded deal so that he becomes cuttable at the end of his contract if he gets too injured or falls off a cliff but its gotta reduce his cap a little bit at least from next season's cap hit - and it should be 12-13 mill range we paid him like a young in his prime number 1 corner and gave him a deal worth less than 11 mill/year - gotta think that his next deal will be less than 13 as an average if you include inflation by salary cap, his rivals all being around 14 mill per year as an average but also he's older than most of his rivals - and none of them ever accumulate cap hits above 14 mill - he'll be nearly/over 16 mill cap hits the next 2 days
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One thing to understand will be the league having a new tv deal sometime around the next cba. This will also raise the salary cap. This is why I’d rather it be pretty level throughout with small increases.

If we had a decent amount of cap space next year than I would agree with you, but we need some space next year.
 
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RavensMania said:
One thing to understand will be the league having a new tv deal sometime around the next cba. This will also raise the salary cap. This is why I’d rather it be pretty level throughout with small increases.

If we had a decent amount of cap space next year than I would agree with you, but we need some space next year.
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that's fair - i always forget the new CBA will likely change the salary cap significantly but my worry is we'd get the higher cap hits before the new cba comes in
 
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rossihunter2 said:
that's fair - i always forget the new CBA will likely change the salary cap significantly but my worry is we'd get the higher cap hits before the new cba comes in
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Yes that is very true. Teams may anticipate, but they won’t really know the knew tv deals.
 
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Deebo813 said:
Suggs said that he is expecting to finish his career on a different team!! Dam i dont wanna see him leave
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SepticeyePoe said:
What? Where did you see that?
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its a nothing story based around a partial quote from a speculative question by jamison hensley
the gist of the interaction was that he was asked whether he'd be a raven for life and he said he damn sure wanted to but that you never know in this business and that he would be prepared if the time came or something like that
there was no suggestion that either he or the ravens want or expect him to leave/be pushed out of baltimore until he retires - it was just an awareness of the realities of the salary cap but given that he's still leading this team in sacks i dont think its gonna be an issue to be honest

i expect him to retire at the end of next year anyway if he decides he likes the look of the offence and thinks there's a good run in the team starting
 
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rossihunter2 said:
its a nothing story based around a partial quote from a speculative question by jamison hensley
the gist of the interaction was that he was asked whether he'd be a raven for life and he said he damn sure wanted to but that you never know in this business and that he would be prepared if the time came or something like that
there was no suggestion that either he or the ravens want or expect him to leave/be pushed out of baltimore until he retires - it was just an awareness of the realities of the salary cap but given that he's still leading this team in sacks i dont think its gonna be an issue to be honest

i expect him to retire at the end of next year anyway if he decides he likes the look of the offence and thinks there's a good run in the team starting
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Oh, good.
 
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rossihunter2 said:
its almost like ravens fans are incredibly intelligent until a couple of times when they become wilfully ignorant and start sharing things without even researching them with a modicum of interest - this is the 2nd time ive dispelled this rumour today lol and i only used google...

it seems like some people really want the worst to happen
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i wouldnt say its a rumor when he actually said it and being that he is in last year of contract it can happen, although i dnt think it will. At his age, our current cap situation, and his contract situation its something that should be talker about . I mean he is playing very well and the fact that his football iq is so good, i can see him playing at this current level for atleast 2 more seasons. im sure we re sign him for something reasonable
 
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Deebo813 said:
i wouldnt say its a rumor when he actually said it and being that he is in last year of contract it can happen, although i dnt think it will. At his age, our current cap situation, and his contract situation its something that should be talker about . I mean he is playing very well and the fact that his football iq is so good, i can see him playing at this current level for atleast 2 more seasons. im sure we re sign him for something reasonable
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pretty sure he's got another year left...
 
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Deebo813 said:
i wouldnt say its a rumor when he actually said it and being that he is in last year of contract it can happen, although i dnt think it will. At his age, our current cap situation, and his contract situation its something that should be talker about . I mean he is playing very well and the fact that his football iq is so good, i can see him playing at this current level for atleast 2 more seasons. im sure we re sign him for something reasonable
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He’s not in the last year of his contract. 2018 is the last year.
 
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K-Dog said:
Damn there are some idiots out there.
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