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The General Front 7 Thread

Jacquouille said:
To me Pees won't be here next season. Whether we go to the playoffs or not, the defense hasn't been as good as the personnel says it should be.
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And to me, I think he stays if this defense plays decent. From a yardage standpoint, I think we're just out of the top 5 thanks in large part to our secondary playing well *knocks on wood* and if this continues, I don't think Steve B has shown that he's the type of guy to fire someone like that. Now if our defense stinks up the joint and defense isn't the excuse, then I'd believe he'd be gone.
 
RavensMania said:
That would be a shame and unfortunately true.
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it really is annoying because i like harbs as our head coach and im not sure i necessarily want a head coaching change but he could hold back this team by being a little risk-averse in terms of his coordinators
 
rossihunter2 said:
it really is annoying because i like harbs as our head coach and im not sure i necessarily want a head coaching change but he could hold back this team by being a little risk-averse in terms of his coordinators
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Yep. It looks as though he went after the coordinator that wouldn’t get a head coaching offer (Trestman, Mornimhweg) rather than getting someone like a gase or Shanahan that could have been with us for a couple years. That being said, I’m a big Kubiak fan and who would have known the perfect opportunity in coach would have opened up. Damn
 
RavensMania said:
Yep. It looks as though he went after the coordinator that wouldn’t get a head coaching offer (Trestman, Mornimhweg) rather than getting someone like a gase or Shanahan that could have been with us for a couple years. That being said, I’m a big Kubiak fan and who would have known the perfect opportunity in coach would have opened up. Damn
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or if denver hadnt rebuilt their coaching staff we might still have kubes now
 
I think Pees deserves some credit for how he's put Judon, Pierce, and Smith in places where they have succeeded. I understand these guys aren't superstars by any means but they've certainly contributed and Pierce looks like he's going to be a great DL for us in the future. I think Pees just has to find a way to put Bowser and Williams in places where they can best utilized where they're good at. Bowser was a rookie of the week winner and played well early on, there's no excuse for why he's not seeing the field much, I know he's made some mistakes but you can't get much out of him and Williams nor can you expect to rely on them if you don't get them on the field.
 
TheCity5 said:
I think Pees deserves some credit for how he's put Judon, Pierce, and Smith in places where they have succeeded. I understand these guys aren't superstars by any means but they've certainly contributed and Pierce looks like he's going to be a great DL for us in the future. I think Pees just has to find a way to put Bowser and Williams in places where they can best utilized where they're good at. Bowser was a rookie of the week winner and played well early on, there's no excuse for why he's not seeing the field much, I know he's made some mistakes but you can't get much out of him and Williams nor can you expect to rely on them if you don't get them on the field.
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they arent learning anything or improving on the bench... and they have shown they can affect things in a positive way on the field - it doesnt hurt to have them come in situationally to do what they do best
 
rossihunter2 said:
they arent learning anything or improving on the bench... and they have shown they can affect things in a positive way on the field - it doesnt hurt to have them come in situationally to do what they do best
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It’s true, that pees has put judon, Pierce and smith in great position to succeed as well as Humphrey. I just don’t understand how he can’t do the same for Bowser TWill Henry and Jefferson.

You have the chess pieces. Use them, don’t waste them.
 
RavensMania said:
Yep. It looks as though he went after the coordinator that wouldn’t get a head coaching offer (Trestman, Mornimhweg) rather than getting someone like a gase or Shanahan that could have been with us for a couple years. That being said, I’m a big Kubiak fan and who would have known the perfect opportunity in coach would have opened up. Damn
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I think that's a dumb idea because you're pretty much settling for less and now you've had continuous mediocrity. 9/10 I would take a guy like Gase for two seasons over a guy like Marty or Trestman for five seasons.
 
RavensMania said:
It’s true, that pees has put judon, Pierce and smith in great position to succeed as well as Humphrey. I just don’t understand how he can’t do the same for Bowser TWill Henry and Jefferson.

You have the chess pieces. Use them, don’t waste them.
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he's also shown he can adjust too - with pierce and henry he's worked out how to use them rotationally to their strengths through the season and its added a nice new element to our front 7 when everyone's healthy

but it is weird this weird adverseness to using twill bowser and jefferson in the right way - i do take back henry though - it seems like he was overused against the titans because of pierce's illness and the game before they were used situationally very well

i also hope that with canady and hill's return we can use webb and canady to put jefferson in position to succeed now
 
rossihunter2 said:
they arent learning anything or improving on the bench... and they have shown they can affect things in a positive way on the field - it doesnt hurt to have them come in situationally to do what they do best
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I understand them being on the field in a limited capacity, but not having them there at all is not going to do you any good. Not every player you get in the draft is going to be an All-Pro day one. I feel like the Ravens can get great things out of a rookie, and the moment he messes up, he just seems to vanish from the playbook.
 
TheCity5 said:
I think that's a dumb idea because you're pretty much settling for less and now you've had continuous mediocrity. 9/10 I would take a guy like Gase for two seasons over a guy like Marty or Trestman for five seasons.
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Absolutely no question. I think losing Kubiak through Harbaugh off more than we realized at the time. We still are catching our breath trying to catch up.
 
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