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Discussion in 'Off-Topic Forum' started by Jacquouille, Jun 21, 2017.

  1. Jacquouille

    Jacquouille Ravens Ring of Honor Supporter

    So, since I'm asking a lot of questions about baseball I figured I should give back and so if any of you want to talk or learn about soccer (which is the sport I know best), feel free.

    Btw the club I support is Stade Rennais, and I absolutely recommand you to NOT do the same. Simply put, we're the Eagles or the Bills of the French Ligue 1, haven't won anything in the last 40 years and haven't done much to change that. But somehow we always manage to stay in the first division which is why I won't qualify us as the Browns of Ligue 1.

    Anyway, since a lot of topics are being brought up here I figured I'd try one where I can really help.
     
  2. Tank

    Tank Ravens Ring of Honor

    EPL season starts Friday.
     
  3. Somerset Ravens

    Somerset Ravens Pro Bowler

    How does the level of play in the French Ligue 1 compare to that of the Premier League ?
     
  4. Jacquouille

    Jacquouille Ravens Ring of Honor Supporter

    Ligue 1 is the supermarket of players. It is a pretty meh league in term of overall level but a lot of talents come from Ligue 1 before being bought by the ridiculously rich clubs of EPL (some prices are laughable for below average player). There are always up and coming players and a few nice teams to follow but we don't follow money-wise so every good player leaves after a year or two.
     
  5. Somerset Ravens

    Somerset Ravens Pro Bowler

    Thanks for the information. I am a soccer novice who just started watching the Premier League last year.
     
  6. Jacquouille

    Jacquouille Ravens Ring of Honor Supporter

    You're right to do so. I guess PL is the easy way in. It's competitive, it's tough and very passionate, and you feel like there's not a big margin between the top teams and the bottom teams, which makes every game interesting to watch. And there's the boxing sunday, which is great.
     
  7. mc_red23

    mc_red23 Pro Bowler

    So glad somebody started this thread. I can't wait for the start of the season!

    Somerset, is there one particular team you liked to watch the most last season?
     
  8. Somerset Ravens

    Somerset Ravens Pro Bowler

    I enjoyed watching Arsenal play, their fans really support their team, they sang almost all game long. I probably saw Manchester United play most often, they seem to get more television coverage.
     
  9. Jacquouille

    Jacquouille Ravens Ring of Honor Supporter

    Man U is so annoying since Sir Alex left. It's exactly what I hate to see in terms of team-building (gneeee we have money let's overpay for every flashy name) and Mourinho is an asshole, straight-up. Glad they can't win.
     
  10. Tank

    Tank Ravens Ring of Honor

    IDK......United seem to be on the upswing since Jose replaced van Gaal. Yes, he is an asshole but he gets results. I wasn't too fond of him either when he was at Chelsea. lol

    Big market teams spend big money. Can't really blame them. Barca, RM, PSG, Chelsea all had higher payrolls than United last year. And they always have a decent amount of homegrown talent in the fold, probably one of the best youth/player development programs in the world.
     
    Last edited: Aug 9, 2017
  11. rossihunter2

    rossihunter2 Staff Member Moderator

    I'm not sure that strictly that's been true the last few years - I think united have had everyone in England beat in terms of spending and a lot of their "homegrown" talent at this point is bought in from other clubs

    Except for PSG who just spent all that money on Neymar... lol
     
  12. Tank

    Tank Ravens Ring of Honor

    They've spent a bunch, no doubt. They've been searching for "that guy" for a while with a few misses along the way. But I think if you look City are usually the biggest spenders in the PL transfer market and Chelsea are always big players as well.
     
  13. Jacquouille

    Jacquouille Ravens Ring of Honor Supporter

    I mean, I don't know the whole team but it's been like 4 years where they've had terrible defense and kept on signing offensive players. They keep on going to fancy shiny guys like Pogba and spend crazy like they did for Martial, and I can't appreciate teams that opperate like that. I have much more respect for teams like Arsenal, Bayern or Athletico that recruit smartly and in a healthy way. Winning or losing I can't support a team that is fully dependant on big transfers.
     
  14. Jacquouille

    Jacquouille Ravens Ring of Honor Supporter

    I don't think you know how much my Facebook feed was blowing up from everywhere during that time lmao
     
  15. rossihunter2

    rossihunter2 Staff Member Moderator

    you'd be surprised by how little comparatively chelsea have spent compared to the other big PL teams the last couple of years until this summer - financial fair play was one of the best things to ever happen to them
     
  16. Jacquouille

    Jacquouille Ravens Ring of Honor Supporter

    What I was thinking. I don't remember them spending big, Morata felt like a complete exception. How much did they pay for Kante?
     
  17. Tank

    Tank Ravens Ring of Honor

    Chelsea have been fortunate in that they have sold a bunch and have had solid pieces in place that have remained healthy and performed consistently well the past couple of years. Good on them, but they still remain big spenders as needed.

    With Jose coming in at United you knew he was going to be given free reign to sign as he sees fit. There were some misses and losses during the Moyes/van Gaal period and obvious holes existed. I think much of the "turmoil" was of no surprise as they adjusted to the departure of Sir Alex. If anything they really didn't prepare well at the beginning to cope with losing his touch. Those were awfully big shoes to fill.
     
  18. Tank

    Tank Ravens Ring of Honor

    I kind of agree in a way, but I've been a United fan a long time and can't dump them just because they are adjusting to losing what was their heart in Sir Alex. Hoping they get back to who they were at some point.
     
  19. Tank

    Tank Ravens Ring of Honor

    here you go........ http://www.talkchelsea.net/news/che...-in-premier-league-history-having-spent-1-7b/
     
  20. rossihunter2

    rossihunter2 Staff Member Moderator

    it always looked and felt like a mistake for them to put david moyes in as fergie's successor - mourinho was the obvious guy then and all he took was a 2 year detour to the job via chelsea again
     

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