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The Random Thought Thread

airconteka said:
If Elon was any good he'd have made hoverboards available. No one needs to be that rich, but that's more about the game to me. A more effective tax system could probably fund health care for the poor without them even noticing. But yeah ultimately I just want a hoverboard.
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Yea Back to the Future II really missed on hoverboards timeline... 2015 my ass
 
rmcjacket23 said:
A more effective tax system would require the government to figure out a way to tax intangible value, like net worth, which is asinine to begin with. Much of the wealth nationwide isn't in tangible assets.

Universal health care won't solve the problem people think it will. It'll make healthcare more affordable, but its nowhere close to guaranteeing to make people healthier. There's no point in making it cheaper to be unhealthy. Solving healthcare problems in pretty much any nation is a product of cultural shifts and education to consumers about how to actually live healthy lifestyles.

And no, eating and living healthy isn't expensive.
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lots of european countries have first hand knowledge of the fact that universal healthcare and cheap healthcare makes a massive difference lol
 
rmcjacket23 said:
1. The plan sucked and wasn't intelligent at all. Said plan also admitted that it was purely a temporary measure to solve world hunger, not a sustainable or long term measure. Like putting a band aid on a broken bone.
2. I don't know when people decided it was a single person's responsibility to end world hunger. He has no more liability on the issue than you or I do.
He's certainly under no moral obligation to do so. It would be pure generosity.
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except he should be held responsible (he and most other billionaires) - his wealth literally comes from the exploitation of people treated as 2nd class citizens (literally in his case given the apartheid origins of his family money) - his billions are blood money and the continued hoarding of wealth has the net end result of pushing millions of people into poverty and absolute poverty

he's under no obligation to do it
but it is unambiguously immoral to be that wealthy in the first place... the only way to achieve that kind of wealth is by the unfair exploitation of labour and by avoiding paying taxes either by legal or illegal means
 
Clearly we need the draft lol
 
gtalk12 said:
Yes. It's starting to feel like a few years ago during the protests/riots all over again.

I was guilty too
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I come here to get away from all that stuff lol
 
gtalk12 said:
I got in so cheap that I am currently up 277%
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Nice man thats solid. I got some buddies heavily invested as well so I'm hoping it works out for their sake too. I only dabbled and kept the large majority of my investments a bit more conservative avenues.
 
BoredMarine13 said:
Nice man thats solid. I got some buddies heavily invested as well so I'm hoping it works out for their sake too. I only dabbled and kept the large majority of my investments a bit more conservative avenues.
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I tell my clients not to put too much into crypto, just a percentage of their assets. I myself have been investing in crypto for atleast 3 years now, but the bulk has been in BTC and ETH, but I dabble in the others, ie DOGE and have been in for a long time, so I'm up a lot.

If you want to invest in crypto, you should be dollar cost averaging in.
 
rossihunter2 said:
lots of european countries have first hand knowledge of the fact that universal healthcare and cheap healthcare makes a massive difference lol
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Massive difference in what? Healthcare of people?

Have you looked at the difference in cultures among those countries? How about just starting with sheer volume of hours worked on a weekly, monthly, or annual basis between European countries and US countries.

Cost of healthcare is the crutch people lean on to solve all problems... when they can't identify what the real problems are.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
Massive difference in what? Healthcare of people?

Have you looked at the difference in cultures among those countries? How about just starting with sheer volume of hours worked on a weekly, monthly, or annual basis between European countries and US countries.

Cost of healthcare is the crutch people lean on to solve all problems... when they can't identify what the real problems are.
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what's the downside of universal healthcare though?
it's cheaper per capita
it's more efficient
people are more likely to use its services rather than languishing with undiagnosed problems or unfixed issues or without seeking support when they need it
it helps create a more equal society

it's not a crutch - if people are unhealthy, they should be able to seek help without fear of financial repercussions
 
BoredMarine13 said:
Yea Back to the Future II really missed on hoverboards timeline... 2015 my ass
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To be fair... they were only a year off of the Cubs winning the World Series. That's still quite impressive for a movie back then to nearly predict a real sports outcome.

Ever since the Back to The Future movies, I have loved the idea of time travel but being able to change time for the better with little to no consequences. Sorry Doc... I know they the rules but I just want Lee Evans to catch the ball against the Pats in the 2011 AFC Championship lol.
 
rossihunter2 said:
except he should be held responsible (he and most other billionaires) - his wealth literally comes from the exploitation of people treated as 2nd class citizens (literally in his case given the apartheid origins of his family money) - his billions are blood money and the continued hoarding of wealth has the net end result of pushing millions of people into poverty and absolute poverty

he's under no obligation to do it
but it is unambiguously immoral to be that wealthy in the first place... the only way to achieve that kind of wealth is by the unfair exploitation of labour and by avoiding paying taxes either by legal or illegal means
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1. He's not responsible for what his family did when he wasn't alive or wasn't intelligent/mature enough to understand those choices. That's not a realistic expectation of anybody who is living. If people judged you that way, you'd hate it too.
2. Which specific people is he exploiting? Which data points suggest that? Are Tesla's being made by sweatshop 4 year olds in China for a nickel a day?
Or is "exploitation", in this case, just a euphemism for "the people that he employs don't all make six figures, so he's a slave owner".
3. Avoiding paying taxes by legal means is the same thing you and every other public figure who pays taxes does. You just won't admit it.
Legality is nothing more than universal morals. If its legal, society has adopted it as moral. People can disagree with that, but its just opinion at that point. There's no objectiveness about it.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
Massive difference in what? Healthcare of people?

Have you looked at the difference in cultures among those countries? How about just starting with sheer volume of hours worked on a weekly, monthly, or annual basis between European countries and US countries.

Cost of healthcare is the crutch people lean on to solve all problems... when they can't identify what the real problems are.
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You really aren't smart as you think you are.
 
rossihunter2 said:
what's the downside of universal healthcare though?
it's cheaper per capita
it's more efficient
people are more likely to use its services rather than languishing with undiagnosed problems or unfixed issues or without seeking support when they need it
it helps create a more equal society

it's not a crutch - if people are unhealthy, they should be able to seek help without fear of financial repercussions
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Well there's a pretty simple downside... who's paying for it?
If its purely rich people funding it, which is honestly about the only halfway logical way to fund it, then that's nothing more than government exploration of wealthy people and forcing them to pay exponentially more for the same resources everybody uses.
If it's not being funded by wealthy people, then its being funded by all people, which means, of course, higher taxes.
 
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