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Sandtown said:
Sure did. Roman won offensive assistant of the year in 2019, in his offense Lamar Jackson won MVP, his offense was ranked 6th overall in 2021 which included Lamar Jackson not finishing the rest of the season along with no Dobbins and Edwards , and up until this year this probably the most explosive offense we seen as Ravens fans.
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So why can't that genius make at least half decent offence without MVP Lamar??

Lamar made him, not the other way around.
 
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Militant X 1 said:
No, they are not! Brady earned that beatdown and "L" yesterday because of what he said about the Bengal's defense being "fairly tough" in his presser last week. You know what type of woman that they say payback is like.
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Yes yea i know , I’m just jealous they are having fun. We’re over hear sky is falling , players posting left fire Roman flyers lol
 
JAAM said:
This might be the first time I’ve ever seen the majority of Ravens fans (across social media) just flat out done with Harbaugh lol. Usually you see some devil’s advocates but man, they’re really hard to find nowadays. Sucks because I do like Harbs but this situation has gotten so ridiculous
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eh post 2017 collapse was pretty insane
 
I recall us firing Wink and everyone wondering if we got the right coordinator or not. I like McDonald and the pressure he has brought, but if we can't figure out how to close games it's such a wash to me.
 
Simba said:
Seems wild that I even have to explain this to the self-proclaimed smartest man here, but the goal is the get the ball down the field and into the red zone so that we can hopefully get those points. We sure as fuck were not doing that by passing the ball. Maybe we self destruct in the red zone again but that's literally impossible if we can't get there in the first place. If my goal is to get to the red zone, running the ball was the unquestioned best opportunity to do that. It's really not that hard to comprehend. The red zone stats you keep throwing out don't matter for shit if we don't get there in the first place. Running the ball was the reason we had opportunities in the first place. It doesn't matter that we squandered them. Again, that's a completely different argument.
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And I'm surprised I have to explain this to you, but taking 7 minutes to get to the red zone, and then sputtering, does literally nothing for us either. If you think we were just going to waltz down the field running the ball in like 2 minutes and get in the red zone, there's nothing on film from the first three quarters indicating that was going to happen either.

I don't really care if we get in the red zone or not. I want to get the ball down the field as quickly as possible. Throwing the ball accomplishes that better than running it at a % that is precisely 100%. That was actually true on Sunday too. We just had too many turnovers in the passing game for it to warrant anything.

The reason the point is moot is because, as you agreed with, it really doesn't matter if we run the ball well, because we're not scoring. We didn't score for 3 quarters running the ball, and we're not going to score in the 4th quarter doing so either. So why people think we lost this game because we "abandoned the run" in a situation where it literally does us no good to do so is beyond stupid.

Highly suggest you re-watch the game again. Nobody gives a fuck if you have 300 rushing yards when you lose by 10 and score 3 points.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
And I'm surprised I have to explain this to you, but taking 7 minutes to get to the red zone, and then sputtering, does literally nothing for us either. If you think we were just going to waltz down the field running the ball in like 2 minutes and get in the red zone, there's nothing on film from the first three quarters indicating that was going to happen either.

I don't really care if we get in the red zone or not. I want to get the ball down the field as quickly as possible. Throwing the ball accomplishes that better than running it at a % that is precisely 100%. That was actually true on Sunday too. We just had too many turnovers in the passing game for it to warrant anything.

The reason the point is moot is because, as you agreed with, it really doesn't matter if we run the ball well, because we're not scoring. We didn't score for 3 quarters running the ball, and we're not going to score in the 4th quarter doing so either. So why people think we lost this game because we "abandoned the run" in a situation where it literally does us no good to do so is beyond stupid.

Highly suggest you re-watch the game again. Nobody gives a fuck if you have 300 rushing yards when you lose by 10 and score 3 points.
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So the smart thing to do was to only throw and get 15 yards off 2 drives, got it.
 
airconteka said:
So the smart thing to do was to only throw and get 15 yards off 2 drives, got it.
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Pretty much. Would have gotten more than 2 drives in that case, probably, since you're not taking 6-7 minutes off the clock.

Of course the smart thing to do was to score more than 3 points in 3 quarters and stop pretending like running the ball well matters when you're not scoring and losing the game. That would also be smart.

Game was the same as our offensive struggles all year. It's not a struggle between the 20s. It's the struggles situationally. 0/3 on 4th down. 5/12 on 3rd down. 0/2 in the red zone. -2 in turnovers. That's how you lose in the playoffs. It's not about run : pass ratio or any of the bullshit people on here say. Doesn't matter whether you can go 4-wide and spread people out. How well do you perform situationally in high leverage spots? Saturday... we were piss poor.

But hey, our backs averaged 10 YPC, so lets all just pat ourselves on the back for that one.

Somebody mentioned "archaic". Everything I just described is "archaic". Running the ball and hiding your QB in the 4th quarter down 2 scores is the textbook definition of "archaic" in the modern NFL.
 
BoredMarine13 said:
Lamar saved that man’s job , he was dead to rights
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I think it would have been longer than Lamar for him to be fired. I think everybody knew by like 2017-2018 that the problem was an overpaid QB, not the HC.
Also a multiple year failure by Ozzie to draft and develop quality players. And a lot of misses in FA.
 
allblackraven said:
So why can't that genius make at least half decent offence without MVP Lamar??

Lamar made him, not the other way around.
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Think we need more info to be able to say this with any confidence.
We know Roman can run the ball anywhere he goes, which is what we've largely been good at the whole time Lamar has been here.
And we know Roman was at least involved in making Tyrod Taylor and Colin Kaepernick look pretty good. Not MVP level, but those aren't world-beaters at QB either.

I know what Roman can and can't do without Lamar.
I have no idea what Lamar can or can't do without Roman.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
And I'm surprised I have to explain this to you, but taking 7 minutes to get to the red zone, and then sputtering, does literally nothing for us either. If you think we were just going to waltz down the field running the ball in like 2 minutes and get in the red zone, there's nothing on film from the first three quarters indicating that was going to happen either.

I don't really care if we get in the red zone or not. I want to get the ball down the field as quickly as possible. Throwing the ball accomplishes that better than running it at a % that is precisely 100%. That was actually true on Sunday too. We just had too many turnovers in the passing game for it to warrant anything.

The reason the point is moot is because, as you agreed with, it really doesn't matter if we run the ball well, because we're not scoring. We didn't score for 3 quarters running the ball, and we're not going to score in the 4th quarter doing so either. So why people think we lost this game because we "abandoned the run" in a situation where it literally does us no good to do so is beyond stupid.

Highly suggest you re-watch the game again. Nobody gives a fuck if you have 300 rushing yards when you lose by 10 and score 3 points.
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If you think throwing the ball in that game gave us a better chance… yikes. That’s all I really have to say at this point. Can’t help you any further.
 
Simba said:
If you think throwing the ball in that game gave us a better chance… yikes. That’s all I really have to say at this point. Can’t help you any further.
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Normally I'd agree with what rmc is saying in that passing is the more explosive option and it's more reliable for moving the ball in bigger chunks and in a faster manner. That's very logical.

But that's the issue- it's logical and ignores the flow of the game.

The fact of the matter is...

1. Tyler Huntley has never shown to have a consistent or strong arm capable of pushing the ball down the field.
2. Huntley threw exactly one pass over 15 yards all night.
3. Huntley completed just four that were longer than 5 yards, give or take a yard.

The fact of the matter is with Huntley in, due to his limitations, drives are going to take much longer, anyway. They aren't quick, explosive drives that end in a score in two minutes. They're very slow, methodical drives that chew clock.

So, I'd ask myself- what's been working on the day? Certainly not the passing game. The running game had at least produced a few chunk runs of over 30 yards and had been averaging more yards per run than Huntley was targeting in air yards.

I think he's right in the sense that the Ravens did themselves in by only getting three points in the prior three quarters, but passing wasn't going to give the Ravens the drastically increased chance to win with Huntley this game.
 
29BmoreBird22 said:
Normally I'd agree with what rmc is saying in that passing is the more explosive option and it's more reliable for moving the ball in bigger chunks and in a faster manner. That's very logical.

But that's the issue- it's logical and ignores the flow of the game.

The fact of the matter is...

1. Tyler Huntley has never shown to have a consistent or strong arm capable of pushing the ball down the field.
2. Huntley threw exactly one pass over 15 yards all night.
3. Huntley completed just four that were longer than 5 yards, give or take a yard.

The fact of the matter is with Huntley in, due to his limitations, drives are going to take much longer, anyway. They aren't quick, explosive drives that end in a score in two minutes. They're very slow, methodical drives that chew clock.

So, I'd ask myself- what's been working on the day? Certainly not the passing game. The rubbing game had at least produced a few chunk runs of over 30 yards and had been averaging more yards per run than Huntley was targeting in air yards.

I think he's right in the sense that the Ravens did themselves in by only getting three points in the prior three quarters, but passing wasn't going to give the Ravens the drastically increased chance to win with Huntley this game.
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This is exactly what I've been getting at. In a normal offense, throwing the ball is absolutely the right decision. Still think you sprinkle some runs in of course, but you focus on the passing game. I've been challenging the archaic thought the whole time that throwing the ball there HAS to be the answer in this scenario because it ignores the previous 3 quarters (and probably even more) of data in this instance. I don't disagree that in most circumstances, throwing the ball was probably the right move. In this instance, I can't see anyways the coaches were focused more on the clock than the complete lack of passing game all alone.
 
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