haha because we turned the ball over
-
Welcome to PurpleFlock! Sign up here so that you can chat with your fellow Ravens fans.
The Random Thought Thread
- Thread starter The Greek
- Start date
haha because we turned the ball over
not sure they "punted" on the season but they definitely have the roster set up to develop and be better in future years
- the guys spencer listed for sure
but the 4th round was all about the future...
- Faalele was a highly talented and athletically gifted developmental tackle prospect
- Likely was a small school guy who's actually come on quicker than you might have expected him to
- Stout was a top punting prospect being asked to take over from an all-time great raven who'd held that position for 16 years
rather than punting on the year, i think it was more like this was more of a retooling/transitional year
still should have been able to compete though which if we can ever be a healthy team again, should scare the NFL
rmcjacket23
Ravens Ring of Honor
On the first drive, with 11 minutes left, yes, yes they are. If you're playing sideline coverage that early, you'll give up 15-20 yard plays down the middle.
On the second drive, after we've done our nice cute little 8 minute drive and gotten the ball back with 60 seconds left and no timeouts, then yeah, they'll play sideline coverage.
And then I'll get to listen to "archaic" fans suggest we should run the ball more in the 2 minute drill, trailing, too.
What a time to be alive.
rmcjacket23
Ravens Ring of Honor
Well also couldn't convert 3rd and 2 or 4th and 1. What were the play calls for those again?
at 8 ypc vs prevent defence - we're not taking 8 minutes of clock to get down the field lol
a failed FB dive on 4th and 1 isnt the counter you think it is
airconteka
MVP
I'll give the give the man credit he will defend his position at all costs, he's up there with Bobby Jackson in my eyes.
1 thing you can say about bobby jackson is he wont let a man go through him - the only way to beat him is to go around him
Tank
Hall of Famer
Truth from Rich. Lamar needs to come back and make defenses cheat to stop him on the run, opening up easy completions to open receivers. It's the scheme and game plan that made 2019 the season it was. Of course, LJ has to find and hit those open receivers when they are there, something that hasn't been happening consistently this year.
It's crunch time now in more ways than one, I'm confident(hopeful) Lamar will get his shiz together and be the QB we need him to be.
What does "play sideline coverage" even mean? That you think the defense is going to widen so far that they're all going to the boundary? No. That's bush league. And anyway- this ignores that the clock doesn't stop when going out of bounds until 5 minutes left, so that reason goes out the window.
You play with outside leverage and funnel routes inside while maintaining leverage and dropping seven into coverage. Just play Cover 2/Cover 6 and funnel inside.
Fans have this idea that prevent defense is designed to give up easy completions and give up chunk plays as long as it keeps the ball inbounds. No, it's not. It doesn't seek to give up completions at all; it's just that if it does, they seek to tackle quickly. You still have safeties sitting 20 yards deep and linebackers taking away the seam. The Browns are not going to allow Huntley of all quarterbacks to hit a 20 yard throw.
And going for 15-20 yards requires Huntley to be able to hit a pass at 15-20 yards, something he did once all game.
And I'm not even suggesting the Ravens run the ball every single down or anything crazy, but the running backs were AVERAGING 8.0 yards per carry and got at least five yards on half their carries. To run the ball once to start the fourth is criminal. Huntley was indecisive, showed poor mechanics, and struggled to push the ball both outside and deep.
So our suggestion is to pass every down and not run at all to help keep the Ravens in manageable down and distance to keep the offense ahead of the chains? What a time to be alive.
Last edited:
Florida Raven Fan
Ravens Ring of Honor
Thank you. I don't know why this is so hard to comprehend for our self professed purple flock Einstein. To not run even once when we were getting chunks was stupid. That's pretty much what we are all saying.
QtR Nevermore
Pro Bowler
Why is it on an injured Lamar to make defenses cheat to stop the run? Isn't Roman was supposed to be the run genius? He couldn't even run the Browns out of pass looks when getting over 8 ypc.
I can't believe there are still Ravens fans who still pine after the forlorn hope of recapturing 2019. It was a flash in the pan brought about by defenses forgetting how to defend a.) mobile QBs with real speed and b.) Romanball, together with a good and healthy roster.
Even back then, Romanball was a dead end that was easily stopped when teams specifically game planned against it. It still is, as we've seen in every big game and key moment since - red zone, 4th downs etc - every team in the NFL knows how to shut down Romanball. For years, the only thing that's worked in those moments has been Lamar creating outside of the scheme.
The Ravens have spent 3 frustrating years trying to chase something that's never going to come back, wasting Lamar's cheap years in the process, yet some fans still want to run after that mirage again?
Lamar coming back, balling out and rescuing a group of coaches who have been out of ideas for years would be an overall negative for the Ravens.
we
Glad everyone else sees how asinine his thought process is on this one.
Thanks for taking over. You a real one bro.
Glad everyone else sees how asinine his thought process is on this one.
I'm probably done now because it's just going to go in circles because he sees the logical route (and normally I'd agree), but it's ignoring the reality of the game.
And just so everyone is clear- no one is suggesting to run every single play and forego the pass, but we are suggesting running once with 14:54 left in the game was not conducive to a win with how Huntley played. And hey, it wasn't!
Ellicottraven
Ravens Ring of Honor
The word "archaic" is personally offensive to me. It is ageist! It is sad and angry, but it is so @rmcjacket23 too. Ha ha!
BoredMarine13
Ravens Ring of Honor
Lots of speculation that the Watson contract and Lamar's rumored desire to have something similar set this thing off on its current trajectory. Not sure I buy that, but who knows, maybe Hollywood is still a Raven if we secured Lamar with a Josh Allen deal.
While its frustrating to watch in real time, it maybe a blessing. Assuming you resign Lamar to a deal that works for the organization, the only real holes on this team are WR and CB/OLB depth. No reason we shouldn't be right back in the mix next year as one of the better teams.
Tank
Hall of Famer
lol wut? "an injured Lamar"? Don't think his injury was that serious, and they won't bring him back in unless he's ready.
The offense(Romanball as you call it) has been in place to take advantage of Lamar's strengths which all pretty much involve running the ball, or the threat to run the ball, that threat opening up the pass. At this point I don't think anyone would have any thoughts of Lamar and the offense thriving in a more progressive, pass first scheme no matter the WR personnel involved. While there have been fleeting signs of improvement at times over last 3 years, passing the ball consistently well never was, and probably never will be a strength of his.
I agree that it is time for a change, but thinking that's going to happen now is delusional. We have what we have and who we have and that is what we will roll with this season. Better to hope for success than to complain and cry. If they fail they'll be plenty of time in the off season to do that and ruminate over needed changes.
Last edited:
And the whole red zone argument still boggles my mind. Like hey, instead of getting to the red zone at all and trying to get points, let's just say fuck it and not get there at all because then we won't fail in the red zone again.
