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The Random Thought Thread

So apparently the latest rumor is when we announced Harbaugh coming back next year and an extension(Harbaugh's agent was apparently in town this weekend) threw a wrench into a couple teams' plans. Albert Breer reports that the Broncos, Jets and Dolphins all would have pursued him as their next Head Coach.

According to Sports Illustrated's Albert Breer, Baltimore recently announcing a potential new contract for head coach John Harbaugh "reset the plans of several teams, including the Jets and Broncos." The Miami Dolphins were (are?) also hot on Harbaugh's trail.

Breer echoes a sentiment that Denver — or any interested suitor — won't abandon hope for Harbaugh until he physically signs his contract extension with Baltimore, as the team's Dec. 21 statement reflected he would.


https://247sports.com/nfl/denver-broncos/Article/John-Harbaugh-reset-Broncos-plans-126946244/

My only response......... GOOD! He's ours Elway, you took Kubiak from us so your not getting John from us. I know the Jets & Dolphins want him mostly because he's the only coach who can match down for down with the Patriots. But you still can't have him.
 
So apparently the latest rumor is when we announced Harbaugh coming back next year and an extension(Harbaugh's agent was apparently in town this weekend) threw a wrench into a couple teams' plans. Albert Breer reports that the Broncos, Jets and Dolphins all would have pursued him as their next Head Coach.

According to Sports Illustrated's Albert Breer, Baltimore recently announcing a potential new contract for head coach John Harbaugh "reset the plans of several teams, including the Jets and Broncos." The Miami Dolphins were (are?) also hot on Harbaugh's trail.

Breer echoes a sentiment that Denver — or any interested suitor — won't abandon hope for Harbaugh until he physically signs his contract extension with Baltimore, as the team's Dec. 21 statement reflected he would.


https://247sports.com/nfl/denver-broncos/Article/John-Harbaugh-reset-Broncos-plans-126946244/

My only response......... GOOD! He's ours Elway, you took Kubiak from us so your not getting John from us. I know the Jets & Dolphins want him mostly because he's the only coach who can match down for down with the Patriots. But you still can't have him.

Even I agree with keeping Harbaugh if that fucked up horceface's and traitor's plans.
 
Even I agree with keeping Harbaugh if that fucked up horceface's and traitor's plans.

For some strange reason Rich Eisen and Aditi Kinkhabwala were talking on Twitter how our game against Cleveland could get revenge for 1995 by knocking us out of the playoffs. Yeah, Baker Mayfield was born in 1995 but that's just like saying us keeping Harbaugh is to spite Elway for spurning the city of Baltimore in 1983. I'm ready for the game to begin.
 
Everyone loves to ignore how team friendly that contract was structured and focus instead on overall number and pretend that somehow it kept the Ravens from signing their FAs despite them clearly doing so.
Yup. The big mistake really was the extension, and the deals to ray rice and pitta and the Eugene Monroe saga. That burned us up of a lot of unused money and some picks as well. It absolutely crushed the team in an era where Flacco’s contract was earned and we would’ve otherwise had money to build around him.

After that, draft busts galore.

Post SB ravens were a perfect storm of fuck ups but joe being a qb he gets all the blame.
 
So ridiculous. They didn’t even look into the comtract details if they think that. It wasn’t even until yr 3 that he counted 20m against the cap or more. 2013 it was 13m 2014 it was 14.8m

Was it year 3 or 4? I thought it was 6m 14m 14m then 28?
 
Was it year 3 or 4? I thought it was 6m 14m 14m then 28?
According to 2013 the total cap hit was 13+ in 2013 and 14.8m+ in 2014. Although 2015 Flacco’s number was missing from the list. He did count 22m in 2016, but thst is when we extended him or was it 2015....can’t remember

I do rememwnr a high number, but believe that is when he was extended
 
According to 2013 the total cap hit was 13+ in 2013 and 14.8m+ in 2014. Although 2015 Flacco’s number was missing from the list. He did count 22m in 2016, but thst is when we extended him or was it 2015....can’t remember

I do rememwnr a high number, but believe that is when he was extended
Flacco's numbers (original contract): 2013: 6.8m 2014: 14.8m 2015: 14.55M 2016: 28.55M 2017: 31.15m 2018: 24.75m
the 2016 extension: 22.55M 2017: 24.55 2018: 24.75M

We needed to extend him in 2016 to lower his cap hit otherwise we wouldn't have been able to sign numerous free agents and of course a lot of dead cap limited our leverage. The original contract was only friendly for the first 3 years 2016 and 2017 would have been hell
 
Yup. The big mistake really was the extension, and the deals to ray rice and pitta and the Eugene Monroe saga. That burned us up of a lot of unused money and some picks as well. It absolutely crushed the team in an era where Flacco’s contract was earned and we would’ve otherwise had money to build around him.

After that, draft busts galore.

Post SB ravens were a perfect storm of fuck ups but joe being a qb he gets all the blame.

I mean tbf we had to extend him - the initial deal was structured the way it was so that we would have to redo the deal after 3 years because the numbers got ridiculous - we couldnt get rid of the deal because of the dead money and we couldnt conceivably pay 28m in 2016 for a qb who'd been out of form and also just got a major injury...

so tbf the first deal was where the problems came and it came from backloading the deal by so much - that 2013 cap hit of 6.8m basically ruined the whole contract and any flexibility the ravens might have wanted
 
Just love it when “experts” say that Flacco’s first contract caused us to lose a bunch of players. Like to see them name really one player that was let go directly as a result of his contract.
 
Flacco's numbers (original contract): 2013: 6.8m 2014: 14.8m 2015: 14.55M 2016: 28.55M 2017: 31.15m 2018: 24.75m
the 2016 extension: 22.55M 2017: 24.55 2018: 24.75M

We needed to extend him in 2016 to lower his cap hit otherwise we wouldn't have been able to sign numerous free agents and of course a lot of dead cap limited our leverage. The original contract was only friendly for the first 3 years 2016 and 2017 would have been hell
Thank you. I actually was looking at Suggs contract details in 2013. My eyes naturally went to the top of the page for cap hit .....lol
 
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