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Ellicottraven said:
They are already plenty biased in their reporting @rmcjacket23. I hear you though.
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Right. So they can't win.
If they don't report it, it looks like they're trying to hide something.
If they do report it, they get accused of being insensitive.

When in doubt, ask yourself a) is it news that people care about, and b) is what we're reporting factually accurate?

In this case, I think everybody would agree those answers are Yes and Yes.

For a network that has the perception of being way too opinion heavy and for taking excessively favorable positions towards minorities and promoting topics and agendas they wish people to see, it's quite refreshing in my eyes that they simply just posted factual info and left it at that.
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
Agreed. Empathy is a long lost value in America. People love to see the maximum punishment handed out for poor decisions, like it’s entertainment.


But no innocent bystanders were hurt. A young man who lacked maturity and guidance, and clearly had his demons to face, lost his life and a possibly bright future, but “what if” seems to be the default response by many.

When things like these happen and the court of public opinion starts throwing their 2 cents in about how someone deserves their horrible fate for poor decisions, I just remind them that you may have kids one day and I hope like hell that you don’t have to be humbled, because no matter how morally correct you think you are it could happen to anyone. I’ve been surrounded by drugs and alcohol abuse and undiagnosed mental illness since I was born, I’ve seen a lot of people that were once carefree children raised in a decent household lose their lives to drugs and alcohol, it literally can happen to ANYONE. I just hope this world doesn’t humble those who pass judgement this callously.
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he fucked up
he didnt deserve to die for it
it's still sad that he died even though he fucked up
 
UPennChem said:
If Oweh has a significantly better "statistical" year compared to Kayvon, we'll know it was largely due to Wink. If not then yeah maybe he was a part but maybe also our guys just weren't that good. It'll be interesting to see. Because OLBs have largely been the only underpforming position consistently on the D under Wink.
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id say you could argue all front 7 guys largely statistically underperformed under Wink
 
rossihunter2 said:
id say you could argue all front 7 guys largely statistically underperformed under Wink
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You're not wrong. It's gonna be a really interesting year. The defense plus Houston is looking really nice. I'm not sure how much more you could honestly ask for there. The offense is also loaded at every spot except WR. Should be a really strong team
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
Agreed. Empathy is a long lost value in America. People love to see the maximum punishment handed out for poor decisions, like it’s entertainment.


But no innocent bystanders were hurt. A young man who lacked maturity and guidance, and clearly had his demons to face, lost his life and a possibly bright future, but “what if” seems to be the default response by many.

When things like these happen and the court of public opinion starts throwing their 2 cents in about how someone deserves their horrible fate for poor decisions, I just remind them that you may have kids one day and I hope like hell that you don’t have to be humbled, because no matter how morally correct you think you are it could happen to anyone. I’ve been surrounded by drugs and alcohol abuse and undiagnosed mental illness since I was born, I’ve seen a lot of people that were once carefree children raised in a decent household lose their lives to drugs and alcohol, it literally can happen to ANYONE. I just hope this world doesn’t humble those who pass judgement this callously.
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In general, I agree with this. The "well he could have killed this or that" game has no real merit, because its purely hypothetical. The Earth doesn't rotate on hypotheticals. There's reality, and there's everything else.

None of us are angels. I've done drugs, I've driven after drinking too much. I'm not somebody who openly criticizes these people for bad decisions frequently (as people can tell by the fact that I'm usually against the media throwing the hammer at any and all people who don't act the way they want them to).

BUT... I will point out that there are bystanders who are "hurt" by this. Maybe not physically, but certainly emotionally. He's got a wife and children. They're scarred for life.
Most importantly, somebody actually did kill him. There was a driver of a vehicle who ran over another human being and killed him. Not his fault per-say, but that's not just something anybody just "gets over". That driver will live the rest of his life knowing he ran over another person. That can't be undone or unseen.
Is he better off than Haskins? Of course, because he's still alive. Practically anything is better off than being dead. But there's virtually no such thing as victimless crimes or innocent crimes. They impact somebody somewhere at various degrees.

But I generally agree. He's not the worst person to ever walk the Earth. He doesn't deserve to be criticized until the end of the world. He fucked up, and it cost him his life. The reason its important to share that publicly is for others to see the impact and perhaps learn something from it. If even one person decides to Uber tonight because of this news, that's something positive.

And no, I also don't believe that just because a person's dead we should just ignore all of the bad things they did and treat them like they were great. Respect and disrespect doesn't end when you're dead in my eyes.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
In general, I agree with this. The "well he could have killed this or that" game has no real merit, because its purely hypothetical. The Earth doesn't rotate on hypotheticals. There's reality, and there's everything else.

None of us are angels. I've done drugs, I've driven after drinking too much. I'm not somebody who openly criticizes these people for bad decisions frequently (as people can tell by the fact that I'm usually against the media throwing the hammer at any and all people who don't act the way they want them to).

BUT... I will point out that there are bystanders who are "hurt" by this. Maybe not physically, but certainly emotionally. He's got a wife and children. They're scarred for life.
Most importantly, somebody actually did kill him. There was a driver of a vehicle who ran over another human being and killed him. Not his fault per-say, but that's not just something anybody just "gets over". That driver will live the rest of his life knowing he ran over another person. That can't be undone or unseen.
Is he better off than Haskins? Of course, because he's still alive. Practically anything is better off than being dead. But there's virtually no such thing as victimless crimes or innocent crimes. They impact somebody somewhere at various degrees.

But I generally agree. He's not the worst person to ever walk the Earth. He doesn't deserve to be criticized until the end of the world. He fucked up, and it cost him his life. The reason its important to share that publicly is for others to see the impact and perhaps learn something from it. If even one person decides to Uber tonight because of this news, that's something positive.

And no, I also don't believe that just because a person's dead we should just ignore all of the bad things they did and treat them like they were great. Respect and disrespect doesn't end when you're dead in my eyes.
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All fair points that I agree with
 
This is not a contract related question. AT ALL. But anyone se find it odd Lamar wasn't out there despite the fact that as far as I'm aware he always has previously and has gone out of his way to practice with his guys on his own?

He tweeted can't wait to get back out there. We'll he could be, but he's chosen not to. Idk find it kinda odd
 
UPennChem said:
This is not a contract related question. AT ALL. But anyone se find it odd Lamar wasn't out there despite the fact that as far as I'm aware he always has previously and has gone out of his way to practice with his guys on his own?

He tweeted can't wait to get back out there. We'll he could be, but he's chosen not to. Idk find it kinda odd
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Probably got sick again smh
 
I know he practiced with Bateman and the other guys have all been here except the UDFAs. Not going to look too deep into this. Pretty sure he's also working with his own people to better himself.
 
UPennChem said:
This is not a contract related question. AT ALL. But anyone se find it odd Lamar wasn't out there despite the fact that as far as I'm aware he always has previously and has gone out of his way to practice with his guys on his own?

He tweeted can't wait to get back out there. We'll he could be, but he's chosen not to. Idk find it kinda odd
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Since its voluntary OTAs, and plenty of veterans don't show up, its really hard to decipher anything.
That being said... it would hardly be a surprise for him to not show up until at least camp. For obvious reasons.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
Since its voluntary OTAs, and plenty of veterans don't show up, its really hard to decipher anything.
That being said... it would hardly be a surprise for him to not show up until at least camp. For obvious reasons.
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It's obviously totally voluntary and as you said the majority of vets don't show up to these things. I have no problem whatsoever with him skipping it. It just seems unlike Lamar is my only point.

He's done it every time before.
He has never taken an offseason off.
He tweeted he wants to get back out there.

Something is just a little off
 
UPennChem said:
It's obviously totally voluntary and as you said the majority of vets don't show up to these things. I have no problem whatsoever with him skipping it. It just seems unlike Lamar is my only point.

He's done it every time before.
He has never taken an offseason off.
He tweeted he wants to get back out there.

Something is just a little off
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notably QBs normally do turn up for voluntary workouts to work with their receivers etc.
worth noting if anything escalates... but not much to draw from 1 missed day - it's possible he had something that meant he couldn't be in the building for day 1 and turns up tomorrow (will be more notable if he doesnt turn up for any of the voluntary stuff
 
rossihunter2 said:
notably QBs normally do turn up for voluntary workouts to work with their receivers etc.
worth noting if anything escalates... but not much to draw from 1 missed day - it's possible he had something that meant he couldn't be in the building for day 1 and turns up tomorrow (will be more notable if he doesnt turn up for any of the voluntary stuff
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Agreed entirely
 
rossihunter2 said:
just saw his tweet - my guess is that it's most likely he had something else he needed to do or maybe decided to spend some more time with DeDeaux before joining back with the team
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There's clearly something. Maybe a personal thing, maybe a DeDeaux thing, but one way or another there is something. Hopefully its very much nothing and we'll see him soon.
 
In other news today, 14 kids and 1 teacher got killed. Yet y’all are still on about how we should extend grace to a drunk driver
 
Sizzle said:
In other news today, 14 kids and 1 teacher got killed. Yet y’all are still on about how we should extend grace to a drunk driver
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They’re totally unrelated and we had no news of this when we were discussing Haskins earlier. It’s a tragedy, I’m horrified and sick that this is the reality in America and there seems to be no end in sight.

Why are you even doing this? What purpose does this serve other than using a tragedy to stir up shit on a forum? I don’t know why you would even speak about it in this context
 
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