The Random Thought Thread

[29BmoreBird22]

The standards are different now but I'm too old to keep up the good fight. I respect your work and dedication.

A couple of us I remember from the old board going it at about how their boy evaded criticism like Vick did lineman.

The thing is- I absolutely loved Joe. I will forever be grateful for what he did for the Ravens franchise to bring a Super Bowl to Baltimore. But, I wanted to hold him accountable for his lack of quality play in 2016 onward.

I can vividly remember a regular member (yes, I'm sure you know who) got into it with me and labeled me a troll because I felt Joe had a bad day against the Vikings. Mind you, Joe fumbled three times and had 186 yards on 39 pass attempts. He did have a touchdown... down by 15 with no time left on the clock, but let's not distract from the fact that Joe did have a touchdown!

It's just really funny to me that Joe earned unwavering support for the Super Bowl, but Lamar is doubted after a unanimous MVP. And it just bothers me because Lamar this year will likely have a better year than Joe's 2014, or at the very least a comparable year. However, Joe's 2014 would make certain members lose No Nut November at the turn of midnight and Lamar's 2022, with a far worse supporting cast of pass catchers, will be shrugged off and used as reason to not pay Lamar.

 

[gtalk12]

Let's see. 2018, 2019, 2020, that's three years

You can’t be serious. If you were you’d understand that 18 was….ah never mind

 

[redrum52]

You can’t be serious. If you were you’d understand that 18 was….ah never mind

The most disappointing thing about 18 was watching those frauds get their ass beat the very next week by the Pats. And people forget how good that Chargers team should have been.

 

[rmcjacket23]

Let's see. 2018, 2019, 2020, that's three years

But if you're disqualifying 2021, why would you include 2018? What's the basis for thinking the 2018 was even a playoff caliber team, let alone a team you'd expect to win playoff games?

 

[ndub]

But if you're disqualifying 2021, why would you include 2018? What's the basis for thinking the 2018 was even a playoff caliber team, let alone a team you'd expect to win playoff games?

Because Lamar played for them in the playoffs in 2018. And yes he was raw but it was by and large his fault we lost

 

[All_black_everything]

 

[cdp]

Because Lamar played for them in the playoffs in 2018. And yes he was raw but it was by and large his fault we lost

Yes Lamar didn't play great that game. But do you remember who was the OC at the time? He's so bad his name is even banned from this board. The chargers knew what plays we were running based on how our OLs lined up. That game was an absolute shit show.

2019 and 2020 are the years we can talk about.

 

[Florida Raven Fan]

Yes Lamar didn't play great that game. But do you remember who was the OC at the time? He's so bad his name is even banned from this board. The chargers knew what plays we were running based on how our OLs lined up. That game was an absolute shit show.

2019 and 2020 are the years we can talk about.

Lol is it really different from now?

 

[ndub]

Lol is it really different from now?

They keep moving the goalposts. Here I was ready to concede that it was a raw rookie Lamar but nope

 

[cdp]

Lol is it really different from now?

Look i wanted Harbaugh to fire Roman back in 2020. I was very early on the Mike McDaniel hype train. I brought him up to replace *** in 2019. Imagine what he could have done, he has Tua looking like Young out there.

My point is we haven't accomplished much during Lamar's first 4 years not even been to a AFCCG. I'm not sure what we're going to do if we don't do much this year - which is right now the realistic case. Has there ever been a HC QB duo who won a sb after their year 5 (meaning after rookie contract)?

 

[ndub]

Look i wanted Harbaugh to fire Roman back in 2020. I was very early on the Mike McDaniel hype train. I brought him up to replace *** in 2019. Imagine what he could have done, he has Tua looking like Young out there.

My point is we haven't accomplished much during Lamar's first 4 years not even been to a AFCCG. I'm not sure what we're going to do if we don't do much this year - which is right now the realistic case. Has there ever been a HC QB duo who won a sb after their year 5 (meaning after rookie contract)?

I’ll say it for the millionth time, we will never win a Super Bowl with Roman as our OC, and I’m willing to bet top dollar that we’ll never win another with Harbaugh at this point

 

[rmcjacket23]

Because Lamar played for them in the playoffs in 2018. And yes he was raw but it was by and large his fault we lost

Well not only was he raw, but the team wasn't very good either. So there's that.

 

[rmcjacket23]

They keep moving the goalposts. Here I was ready to concede that it was a raw rookie Lamar but nope

Are you sure "they" are the only one's moving the goal posts? Hard to argue that your goal posts have stayed firm...

 

[rmcjacket23]

Lol is it really different from now?

Is what different? 2018 offense from 2022 offense? Good Christ yes. Miles and miles and miles different.

Serious question... were you people actually Ravens fans in 2018, and if so, did you watch games and retain literally any knowledge at all from those games?

Like if Lamar threw it 25 times, people went into panic mode like "holy shit what the fuck are we doing". If you think the 2nd half of the Bucs game was a run-heavy plan, that was four quarters of most of the 2018 Lamar-led Ravens team.

If you think teams know what we're running now, then they're doing a pretty fucking miserable job of stopping it. That's for damn sure.

 

[rmcjacket23]

I’ll say it for the millionth time, we will never win a Super Bowl with Roman as our OC, and I’m willing to bet top dollar that we’ll never win another with Harbaugh at this point

So what happens if they make the SB and lose. which Roman's already done. Does that count as a failure for losing in a SB?

 

[JoeyFlex5]

I don't know how is that possible but Ryan Mink got substantially worse than last year, when he got substantially worse than year before, when he was awful.

Shew, you wanna talk about the ravens being content with mediocrity for a decade? Look at mink

 

[JoeyFlex5]

I think we have something special coming on defense. Did y’all see the wired episode vs Tampa? They got a whole new energy and chemistry, that shit was awesome

 

[JAAM]

 

[ndub]

So what happens if they make the SB and lose. which Roman's already done. Does that count as a failure for losing in a SB?

I’ve said what I’ve said. We. Will. NEVER. Win. A. Super Bowl. With. Greg Roman

But I guess with the lot of you accepting mediocrity, you’d call a season where we made a Super Bowl but lost by a ton a smashing success lmao

 

[redrum52]

I’ve said what I’ve said. We. Will. NEVER. Win. A. Super Bowl. With. Greg Roman

But I guess with the lot of you accepting mediocrity, you’d call a season where we made a Super Bowl but lost by a ton a smashing success lmao

There are great teams that never won a SB or only won 1. One of the people I know you were behind was Payton. He only got that one in 09, so what's the difference? First count the SB winning coaches. Next track what they've done since last winning. This will be a really fun game for the last two bowl winners...