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The Random Thought Thread

Ultimately I believe the next two games are probably wins even if they are ugly like the Panthers. However, without being dramatic, I don't think it is at all inconceivable that we could 2 and 3 for the final 5 games IF this team doesn't get healthier and stop getting hurt every week.

I believe it would be very very very difficult to beat Pitt, Cleveland, and Cincy if we're missing Hamilton, Williams, Stanley, JK, Gus, and DJax.
 
UPennChem said:
Nobody can tell me that Pitt, Cle, Atl, Pitt, Cincy is not a BRUTAL way to close out the year. With the Steelers, Chargers, and Jets blowing it yesterday Cincy looks like an ascending team that we will have to worry about it.
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AFC North games are tough no matter the record , but its hard not to feel confident the Ravens win 3 of 5 and sit pretty with a home playoff game
 
UPennChem said:
Ultimately I believe the next two games are probably wins even if they are ugly like the Panthers. However, without being dramatic, I don't think it is at all inconceivable that we could 2 and 3 for the final 5 games IF this team doesn't get healthier and stop getting hurt every week.

I believe it would be very very very difficult to beat Pitt, Cleveland, and Cincy if we're missing Hamilton, Williams, Stanley, JK, Gus, and DJax.
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Ehh, I mean Djax was basically a healthy scratch, so not sure why he's on this list.

Williams will be back in time for most of those games most likely, and would expect Gus and Stanley back also (pending the news on the latter).

I also don't really know why Pittsburgh is a tough matchup. They still can't stop the run, they can't run the ball themselves, and they have a rookie QB with a bad play caller. We may end up splitting with them, but they're not a team that scares me at all. They're no tougher a game for us than the Broncos, Falcons, Jags, etc. are. They're absolutely on par with those teams.

I also am mildly confident that we'll already have locked up the division by the time we play the Bengals, so that game might not be super meaningful.
 
UPennChem said:
Nobody can tell me that Pitt, Cle, Atl, Pitt, Cincy is not a BRUTAL way to close out the year. With the Steelers, Chargers, and Jets blowing it yesterday Cincy looks like an ascending team that we will have to worry about it.
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I could very easily tell you that. With the exception of Cinci the Ravens basically play a bunch of teams in the bottom 10 in the NFL in terms of ability. If you were to ask who the 10 worst teams in the NFL were I would be surprised if your list did not include: Steelers, Browns, Falcons, Broncos, and Jaguars. I mean I guess there are a couple people who like the Falcons who would argue they are the 18th or 19th best team in the NFL but the schedule cannot get much softer than it currently is.
 
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BoredMarine13 said:
AFC North games are tough no matter the record , but its hard not to feel confident the Ravens win 3 of 5 and sit pretty with a home playoff game
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No, it's not hard not to feel confident! Not to me! Especially, after watching how the Ravens offense performed yesterday, after nearly 2 weeks of rest and at home against the 3-6 Panthers. A team below .500. See, to me, that type of piss-poor production will come back to bite the Ravens in the ass come playoff time.
 
Militant X 1 said:
No, it's not hard not to feel confident! Not to me! Especially, after watching how the Ravens offense performed yesterday, after nearly 2 weeks of rest and at home against the 3-6 Panthers. A team below .500. See, to me, that type of piss-poor production will come back to bite the Ravens in the ass come playoff time.
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“Piss poor”! Ha! Stolen right from my mouth
 
Militant X 1 said:
That's what it was to me Siz! I hate watching the Raven's offense at times. Yesterday was one of those times.
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Me too. But that’s what happens when you literally have piss poor receivers other than Andrews and Duv/Robinson(sometimes)
 
Militant X 1 said:
No, it's not hard not to feel confident! Not to me! Especially, after watching how the Ravens offense performed yesterday, after nearly 2 weeks of rest and at home against the 3-6 Panthers. A team below .500. See, to me, that type of piss-poor production will come back to bite the Ravens in the ass come playoff time.
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It is a long season so looking at a single week and getting worried seems silly to me.

The Vikings got demolished by the Cowboys, the Jets lost to the Patriots, the Giants lost to the Lions, and you also have teams like Bengals, Bills, and Eagles almost losing to teams they outclass. It is a long season and games like this will happen.
 
Militant X 1 said:
No, it's not hard not to feel confident! Not to me! Especially, after watching how the Ravens offense performed yesterday, after nearly 2 weeks of rest and at home against the 3-6 Panthers. A team below .500. See, to me, that type of piss-poor production will come back to bite the Ravens in the ass come playoff time.
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So I agree with the premise of we didn't play well yesterday on offense, BUT, we did still win.

I guess my question is...why do people not feel confident about our ability to be inferior teams? Has that been an issue with Lamar-led teams?

I mean if I just go back to 2019-2021...
In Lamar starts, we're 21-4 against teams who don't make the playoffs that year. We're 10-6 against teams that do.

When we play inferior teams (in terms of teams who don't finish with a winning record or don't make the playoffs), when Lamar starts, we win those games at a very high rate. If the argument is "well we don't play very well in those games", thats fine, but that's more about optics than outcome.

I don't have any real concerns about this team beating bad teams. I think we'll handle the Jags somewhat easily, I think we'll beat Denver (though probably in a game that looks a lot more like yesterdays game) and I think we'll handle Atlanta relatively easily too. The rest are division games where pretty much anything can happen, but I don't anticipate getting swept by Pittsburgh and there's no reason I see why we can't beat the Browns either.

My concern is the concern everybody should have... what happens when we actually play good teams? We were dominant against basically everybody in 2019, but in 2020 we were 4-3 against playoff teams, and 1-2 in 2021, with Lamar under center. Currently, against teams with a winning record this year, we're now 3-3. And two of those wins are against the Jets and the Patriots, who, while they might have winning records, I seriously doubt anybody is treating as "contenders" in the AFC. And one or both of those teams won't make the playoffs most likely.
 
So we won even with us playing piss poor on offense. Which, believe it or not, has been a theme so far this year. Even in our losses, our offense got stagnant and stopped scoring. Sooo… since I’m pissed on here anyway, I’ll open it up…. Why should we give our advantage of having a great defense up just to sign Lamar who really doesn’t make a difference here. I mean Andy Dalton could’ve done what Lamar did yesterday and what Lamar has done a lot of games outside of 2019
 
Sizzle said:
So we won even with us playing piss poor on offense. Which, believe it or not, has been a theme so far this year. Even in our losses, our offense got stagnant and stopped scoring. Sooo… since I’m pissed on here anyway, I’ll open it up…. Why should we give our advantage of having a great defense up just to sign Lamar who really doesn’t make a difference here. I mean Andy Dalton could’ve done what Lamar did yesterday and what Lamar has done a lot of games outside of 2019
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1. Because its one game, and Andy Dalton can't win playoff games on this team. Andy Dalton also couldn't score enough points to even keep a game close in games, like, for example, the Dolphins, where the offense scores a bunch and we still can't win.
Basically, defense isn't good enough to win for you week in and week out.

2. I don't think we need to give up that much on defense just because we're extending/franchising Lamar. Who would we have to give up? There's basically two names... Peters and Roquan. Roquan is easy to extend if you extend Lamar, and I think most fans are on the fence about whether Peters deserves long-term money here at this point.

I don't see a mass exodus of players on the defense that will make this unit worse in the near future. I think we'll need to add some Corners and some more players on the Dline, but nothing earth-shattering. Defense is what the offense was 2-3 years ago now, which is getting younger and more talented by the year.
 
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