• Welcome to PurpleFlock! Sign up here so that you can chat with your fellow Ravens fans.

The Random Thought Thread

29BmoreBird22 said:
What does "play sideline coverage" even mean? That you think the defense is going to widen so far that they're all going to the boundary? No. That's bush league. And anyway- this ignores that the clock doesn't stop when going out of bounds until 5 minutes left, so that reason goes out the window.

You play with outside leverage and funnel routes inside while maintaining leverage and dropping seven into coverage. Just play Cover 2/Cover 6 and funnel inside.

Fans have this idea that prevent defense is designed to give up easy completions and give up chunk plays as long as it keeps the ball inbounds. No, it's not. It doesn't seek to give up completions at all; it's just that if it does, they seek to tackle quickly. You still have safeties sitting 20 yards deep and linebackers taking away the seam. The Browns are not going to allow Huntley of all quarterbacks to hit a 20 yard throw.

And going for 15-20 yards requires Huntley to be able to hit a pass at 15-20 yards, something he did once all game.

And I'm not even suggesting the Ravens run the ball every single down or anything crazy, but the running backs were AVERAGING 8.0 yards per carry and got at least five yards on half their carries. To run the ball once to start the fourth is criminal. Huntley was indecisive, showed poor mechanics, and struggled to push the ball both outside and deep.

So our suggestion is to pass every down and not run at all to help keep the Ravens in manageable down and distance to keep the offense ahead of the chains? What a time to be alive.
Click to expand...
For the last part, yes.
Actually the suggestion would be that if you're going to dominate the run game, you find a way to manage to translate that into points on the scoreboard. That would be the easy suggestion.

And then the suggestion would be when you're down two scores in the 4th quarter, and you have very little possibilities of getting more than two possessions, you should probably start worrying about your YPC average is going to be at the end of the game, because nobody is going to care.

And then of course the fan suggestion would be to focus on why you only scored 3 points in 3 quarters as the main driver for losing the football game. Instead of pretending like the strategy that got you 3 points in 3 quarters was magically going to get you 10-14 points in the last quarter.
 
RavensMania said:
Stout is doing ok, has a very good percentage of his kicks inside the 20 and is replacing a great punter. He has big shoes to fill. Oweh literally just turned 24 years old in the 2nd year of his contract. You guys need some patience. We have multiple examples of players who weren't good in year two of their rookie deal that are very good now, ie Queen, Bowser to name a couple.
Click to expand...

i hate that inside 20 stat because it's contextless and there's a major difference in skill and outcome between inside 20 and inside 10...

especially when combined with a generally lower average punt length

ive not been super impressed with his punt length - and ive been really disappointed with his directional and precision punting - constantly leaving the ball short when we could be pinning teams inside the 10 or even the 5...
 
JAAM said:
I don’t have the numbers to back this up and I feel like our resident numbers guy/expert-arguer will correct me for saying this but it seems like we run way more than we pass (based on eye test), so maybe a new OC with a change in offensive philosophy (extremely balanced or favoring more towards the pass) could persuade some pass catchers who are actually worth a damn?
Click to expand...

we've been 50-50 in 2022 generally because of injuries recently etc. but transitioned from a run first to a pass first offence in the offseason going into 2021 - we were about middle of the road in terms of pass rate then... and i think that's where we want to be as an offence but we dont have the tools right now to do that... we've been more run-heavy the last 3 games (as you'd expect) than we were earlier in the year

and i dont think it's really that complicated - if we offer guys more money, they'll take that money especially if it's a longer than 1 year deal
 
rossihunter2 said:
i hate that inside 20 stat because it's contextless and there's a major difference in skill and outcome between inside 20 and inside 10...

especially when combined with a generally lower average punt length

ive not been super impressed with his punt length - and ive been really disappointed with his directional and precision punting - constantly leaving the ball short when we could be pinning teams inside the 10 or even the 5...
Click to expand...
He's been less than average, which translates to disaster considering we gave the 4th for a punter.

I punt-kick rugby ball with more hang time and farther and in the direction I want it to go. Bare foot and on the sand beach.
 
allblackraven said:
He's been less than average, which translates to disaster considering we gave the 4th for a punter.

I punt-kick rugby ball with more hang time and farther and in the direction I want it to go. Bare foot and on the sand beach.
Click to expand...

i do really think there's still an evolution of punting that needs to continue to borrow more from rugby and aussie rules because why dont they more consistently move the pocket for the punter lol - especially as that creates more time and allows gunners to get further downfield before the punt too...

also means you only need to hardcore protect the punt rush so much on one side of the formation

idk smarter people than me are running these teams so im sure there's a reason but idk why they dont borrow from sports where punting happens more frequently/optimally
 
rossihunter2 said:
i agree we need to continue to aggressively attack the position

i find it hard to find any evidence that we've been drafting WRs to fit into a run first offense...
hollywood doesnt fit that mould, duvernay doesnt fit that mould, proche doesnt fit that mould, bateman doesnt fit that mould, wallace doesnt fit that mould...

boykin fit that mould but he was drafted to be a height-weight-speed freak on the outside, not to be a run blocker

i do think it's fair to say that until bateman (and with the exception of hollywood where i think this was a happy accident), route-running as a technical pro-ready aspect of a game has been largely undervalued in the grading of WR prospects by the ravens - i think that's partly why we've drafted guys who've struggled to translate straight away - i think there's been an over-focus on physical traits over general space/separation creation and less emphasis on YAC vs other teams who've found success with young non-1st round WRs
Click to expand...
Yep. We draft Hayden Hurst over Calvin Ridley.

Mind boggling.
 
  • Haha
Reactions: cdp
rossihunter2 said:
i hate that inside 20 stat because it's contextless and there's a major difference in skill and outcome between inside 20 and inside 10...

especially when combined with a generally lower average punt length

ive not been super impressed with his punt length - and ive been really disappointed with his directional and precision punting - constantly leaving the ball short when we could be pinning teams inside the 10 or even the 5...
Click to expand...
now I agree with that stat but I'm pretty sure the directional and precision punting will improve with more practice and more time. Kickers and Punters tend to get better with time.
 
Even if true, this is a far worse look from Roman than what we saw from Harbs imo. Harbs tried to be positive and say everyone is working hard to improve and we have faith in all our guys. Roman just said yeah my guys need to suck less. Which they really do though. Just probably should've had a cleaner answer.

 
RavensMania said:
now I agree with that stat but I'm pretty sure the directional and precision punting will improve with more practice and more time. Kickers and Punters tend to get better with time.
Click to expand...

im not saying he'll stay not good
just saying that using "inside 20" as a stat to refute him not being good isnt that useful
 
UPennChem said:
Even if true, this is a far worse look from Roman than what we saw from Harbs imo. Harbs tried to be positive and say everyone is working hard to improve and we have faith in all our guys. Roman just said yeah my guys need to suck less. Which they really do though. Just probably should've had a cleaner answer.

Click to expand...


he called an awful game
but tbf this is a lose-lose question lol

should have just done the classic coachspeak "everything" answer to what could be better...

he's not wrong

but he's also not right and it's not a good look to not take accountability there (not that i actually think he's throwing players under the bus - that's not in his manner to do that - it reads worse than it sounded)
 


Roman said the best way to get his guys to execute better was to give Duv a knee capping before practice.

I mean WTF is going on here. We don't even know how our guys are getting hurt anymore. Ffs
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top