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Joe Flacco

I think people here are in denial about how much he actually cares. Just because he says the right things doesnt mean that he actually cares. He's very professional with the media. Knows what to say etc
it doesn;t mean he actually puts crazy work in and studies diligently.

I think the moment he got that contract and knowing he still had enough leverage to force a ridiculous extension was enough for him to just cruise through his deal knowing that the FO are basically...

his bitches
 
I think people here are in denial about how much he actually cares. Just because he says the right things doesnt mean that he actually cares. He's very professional with the media. Knows what to say etc
it doesn;t mean he actually puts crazy work in and studies diligently.

I think the moment he got that contract and knowing he still had enough leverage to force a ridiculous extension was enough for him to just cruise through his deal knowing that the FO are basically...

his bitches
The one comment that stands out to me now is that he was asked about working during the bye week and Joe responded,

"If we don't have to be here, I'm not here."
 
https://russellstreetreport.com/2017/11/29/lombardis-way/joe-flacco-2017/

They speak on the OL. And watching games you can see they have improved and have given Joe ample time, where he either usually

A. checks down
B. over throws
C. the rare pass that hits a wr and they drop it

Stats and eye test show Joe flat out sucks.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...2017-this-one-stat-encapsulates-his-futility/

I tried searching for something he's doing well. Nada. If you can, please share.

Keep trying to rationalize his poor play though. It's hard to catch the ball when it's usually not thrown in your catch radius or you're being lead into traffic. Or it's being thrown behind the LOS with a man draped over you. Let's not act like these are new things. The man has never been great at hitting guys in stride consistently outside of that stretch in 12. A big arm is great but with no touch it means nothing. Any other position playing this bad most likely gets replaced, but I understand why it won't happen here.

lol.....OK. As I said I think the Ravens O line has done well with what they have to work with, so yes, I agree they have improved. Just replying to point out I haven’t rationalized anything and have said repeatedly that Flacco has sucked. I’m only exposing how dumb and silly it is to post thoughts like the Ravens have a “top 10 O line” or they have an “above average group of WRs”. It really doesn’t take a whole lot of analysis or thought to realize how ridiculous it is to even consider things like that are anywhere close to the truth. To state the obvious, it ain’t just Flacco that needs to be fixed.
 
lol.....OK. As I said I think the Ravens O line has done well with what they have to work with, so yes, I agree they have improved. Just replying to point out I haven’t rationalized anything and have said repeatedly that Flacco has sucked. I’m only exposing how dumb and silly it is to post thoughts like the Ravens have a “top 10 O line” or they have an “above average group of WRs”. It really doesn’t take a whole lot of analysis or thought to realize how ridiculous it is to even consider things like that are anywhere close to the truth. To state the obvious, it ain’t just Flacco that needs to be fixed.

Gotcha
 
If I have a crap engine, can I fully be sure the transmission or timing belt are the problem?

This is basically what I've been trying to point to with other posts, but won't knock HIS opinion even if I disagree.

We've been through numerous OCs, wrs, yet still see the same problems. At some point it can't be everything else when the SAME problems keep arising. You don't need to convince me. Outside of the Kubiak season, we've been forced to watch some of the most offensive offenses with mediocre to slightly above average when lucky. These offenses have been so bad, people haven't been able to realize how good the ST and defenses have been since the 13, for the most part. This is giving me night terrors of Billick and Boller. Either that or the Black Friday crack I bought wholesale...
 
This is basically what I've been trying to point to with other posts, but won't knock HIS opinion even if I disagree.

We've been through numerous OCs, wrs, yet still see the same problems. At some point it can't be everything else when the SAME problems keep arising. You don't need to convince me. Outside of the Kubiak season, we've been forced to watch some of the most offensive offenses with mediocre to slightly above average when lucky. These offenses have been so bad, people haven't been able to realize how good the ST and defenses have been since the 13, for the most part. This is giving me night terrors of Billick and Boller. Either that or the Black Friday crack I bought wholesale...
In every team sport you play, there's going to be a rotating cast of players and a rotating cast of coaches, unfortunately. As much as every team would love to stay together, you just can't. The only constant is YOU. If you are always having issues, it's time to look at yourself, not point blame at the rotating cast of people that seem to succumb to the same problems as their predecessors.
 
The fact that you have no basis for your arguments except calling it fake news and saying you watched is what makes you insufferable and why people complain about you in DM's. Yes, it is really sad and pitiful that people complain about you. You really want that reputation?

The thing with saying you "watched the games" is that your memory betrays you more often than not. You remember what you want to, not what actually happened.

Just so we're clear for anyone who reads this.

The Ravens were excellent in pass pro against the Texans. On probably 1/3 of the drop backs, Flacco had at least three seconds to throw and on even the quicker throws, the pocket was so clean it was pretty remarkable. I haven't seen the line play that well since Oakland.

However, Tank has it in his mind that the play calling is calling quick plays to protect bad pass protection and that the offensive line is bad because it has a few shuffled players. Tank then reads an article that says Clowney wrecked the Ravens, so this reinforces his belief that the line is bad. Therefore, Tank will remember the line as being bad against the Texans and he'll say what he saw was bad offensive line play.

Realistically, he can't remember all 36 drop backs or even half, but because he has a predetermined notion on the subject, he's going to remember it in such a way that he wants to. There's the broadcast readily available to be watched, but he won't watch it over because 1. He doesn't want to be wrong because 2. He remembers what he saw already (he doesn't).

But remember, this is just fake news... even though it's well documented in the world of psychology. But this is what's wrong with claiming "the eye test" or saying, "I watched it, so I remember it." It's important to watch it over again to confirm things in your mind.

Just catching another one of your ubiquitous edits. Thanks for the “analysis” professor, very enlightening, but so wrong. You should find a new hobby. lol No matter......enjoy and carry on. :giggle:
 
He got doubled by Hurst and Jensen and they held that block for a good bit of time before he muscled his way in there.

hmmm i guess ill have to watch that play again because from the broadcast i seemed to remember him beating jensen clean virtually untouched... or maybe im muddling up 2 different plays? i dont know
 
hmmm i guess ill have to watch that play again because from the broadcast i seemed to remember him beating jensen clean virtually untouched... or maybe im muddling up 2 different plays? i dont know
On the running play he shot right through the gap almost untouched, but on the sack, no.
 
As they should. But Kapernick is not the answer.
The free agent class next year is highly interesting. Keenum, Bradford, Savage, Bridgewater, McCarron. They're going to get overshadowed by players like Jimmy G, Kirk Cousins, and Drew Brees, but there are some good names on the market in addition to highly touted quarterback prospects
 
Top 10 line......what a hoot! Given all of the injuries and shuffling they have had to do they’ve done pretty well with what they have, but how ridiculous of a statement is that!? Just like you said the Ravens have “an above average group of WRs”. LMAO! My pointing out the fake news has nothing to do with defending Joe, just calling out attempts to try to propose such preposterous thoughts. But I do know why you try though, I understand.

i mean as much as the line hasnt been what we wanted in the offseason, its actually been a top 10 line objectively - now this year with all the injuries, the tenth best oline isnt actually something to write home about

off the top of my head ill name all the teams with better or similar level olines at this point in the season - eagles, pats, falcons, saints, steelers, rams, vikings, dallas, titans

and you could make the argument for the ravens being above the cowboys due to the cowboys injuries on the line, but then you could also argue that cleveland is around the top 10 too...

football outsiders has our oline at 9th in the NFL which feels about right to me given the generally poor overall level of line play around the league this year due to the dearth of quality lineman, depth and prevalence of injuries
 
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