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The WR Thread

RavensMania said:
It should be a tool to use. Maybe they notice something from the pro day and go back and revisit the tape for some reason or another.
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norv turner had him running some very specific routes probably to see how he ran them given that there isnt a huge amount of film on his route tree given the qb play in maryland...

also he didnt drop a single ball all day...

im guessing all he did was cement himself as easily the 2nd receiver on every board and likely the 1st on some people's
 
Deebo813 said:
It would be hard deciding on him and ridley at 16 if we were to pick a wr
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If you put it in a vacuum I agree. I believe Ridley is more like to be a plug and play WR with his fantastic route running and ability to run all the routes. Ridley has veteran route running ability and the ability to stop on a dime that many veterans never learn how to do. Not saying Moore couldn't run all the routes, but he wasn't used that way in college.

What I do like about Moore is that he has made most of his plays from the outside in college, however he may be a better fit in the slot at the next level. If we end up with Moore I will be thrilled because of his is very high.

Anyway, I agree with you, it could be a very difficult decision.
 
rossihunter2 said:
norv turner had him running some very specific routes probably to see how he ran them given that there isnt a huge amount of film on his route tree given the qb play in maryland...

also he didnt drop a single ball all day...

im guessing all he did was cement himself as easily the 2nd receiver on every board and likely the 1st on some people's
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appreciate that, I didn't here that at all and again another reason to make it a very difficult decision.
 
rossihunter2 said:
norv turner had him running some very specific routes probably to see how he ran them given that there isnt a huge amount of film on his route tree given the qb play in maryland...

also he didnt drop a single ball all day...

im guessing all he did was cement himself as easily the 2nd receiver on every board and likely the 1st on some people's
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Have you seen his pro day? If so how was his catching form? A lot of body catches?
 
if it comes down to ridley and moore, im still going ridley without even thinking about it, and after shittons of analyzing im still going ridley, and its not close. dont let the hype train get you, moore very well may end up the best wr from this class, i think theres a good shot it happens as a matter of fact, but ridley leaves zero doubts, absolutely none, and if you have doubts on ridley it was probably a spoonfed helping of anti-bama kool aid from the buffoons who think any prospect from bama should be ignored due to ozzies "bias". moore is still unproven, he shows a toolkit that suggest hes able to run a full route tree, but hes never done it against competition, so who knows. on film his hands arent exactly elite, very good, but they raise some eyebrows with the occasional clap catch and the late-secure catches(when the ball moves loosely in his "possession" for a good while before being secured). he isnt perfect, he isnt a day one slam dunk, its a lot of hype and buzz.

the simple fact is that moore has a lot of stuff that a lot of receivers can do, ridley has stop-and-go explosiveness that is absolutely unparalleled, he changes direction and stops on a dime and explodes every which way in a way that ive only seen antonio brown do, and he does it at a much taller and longer build which makes it fucking impressive, and scary when you think about how well he can gain separation by doing this, yet still being able to catch while covered thanks to the length and body control and ball tracking ridley has. people say moores qb play and playbook hurt him, but no receiver can use this excuse more than ridley(moore can use this excuse as much as ridley, but not more lol). jalen hurts for years has sailed balls 20 yards off the mark, i cant count on both hands how many times ridley had his man/men beat so badly you couldnt even see a defender on screen, and hurts sails the ball into the uprights while ridley is near the pylon, maybe not this exact scenario but ducks comparable to this. hurts was absolute fucking garbage and honestly destroyed a top 5 prospects draft stock. im willing to bet our resident bama nut @allblackraven would attest to just how badly hurts killed ridleys first nfl payday
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
if it comes down to ridley and moore, im still going ridley without even thinking about it, and after shittons of analyzing im still going ridley, and its not close. dont let the hype train get you, moore very well may end up the best wr from this class, i think theres a good shot it happens as a matter of fact, but ridley leaves zero doubts, absolutely none, and if you have doubts on ridley it was probably a spoonfed helping of anti-bama kool aid from the buffoons who think any prospect from bama should be ignored due to ozzies "bias". moore is still unproven, he shows a toolkit that suggest hes able to run a full route tree, but hes never done it against competition, so who knows. on film his hands arent exactly elite, very good, but they raise some eyebrows with the occasional clap catch and the late-secure catches(when the ball moves loosely in his "possession" for a good while before being secured). he isnt perfect, he isnt a day one slam dunk, its a lot of hype and buzz.

the simple fact is that moore has a lot of stuff that a lot of receivers can do, ridley has stop-and-go explosiveness that is absolutely unparalleled, he changes direction and stops on a dime and explodes every which way in a way that ive only seen antonio brown do, and he does it at a much taller and longer build which makes it fucking impressive, and scary when you think about how well he can gain separation by doing this, yet still being able to catch while covered thanks to the length and body control and ball tracking ridley has. people say moores qb play and playbook hurt him, but no receiver can use this excuse more than ridley(moore can use this excuse as much as ridley, but not more lol). jalen hurts for years has sailed balls 20 yards off the mark, i cant count on both hands how many times ridley had his man/men beat so badly you couldnt even see a defender on screen, and hurts sails the ball into the uprights while ridley is near the pylon, maybe not this exact scenario but ducks comparable to this. hurts was absolute fucking garbage and honestly destroyed a top 5 prospects draft stock. im willing to bet our resident bama nut @allblackraven would attest to just how badly hurts killed ridleys first nfl payday
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Now that you mention it, I did couple weeks ago in the other thread

allblackraven said:
There's no WR in this class that can use QB play and/or offensive system as an excuse much more than Ridley.
Ridley is a notch above this entire class.
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allblackraven said:
Now that you mention it, I did couple weeks ago in the other thread
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welp, there it is lol.

i get the love affair with the late riser/hometown kid, hard not to jump on that train, but i stay level headed here and keep hype out of it. i wish i could find the comeback route that ridley ran that basically sealed the deal for me, it was the single most impressive piece of route running ive ever seen from ANY wr, college or pros, and ive watched probably more wrs than any position come draft season(except for maybe edge rushers, theyre usually my favorite position to scout)
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
welp, there it is lol.

i get the love affair with the late riser/hometown kid, hard not to jump on that train, but i stay level headed here and keep hype out of it. i wish i could find the comeback route that ridley ran that basically sealed the deal for me, it was the single most impressive piece of route running ive ever seen from ANY wr, college or pros, and ive watched probably more wrs than any position come draft season(except for maybe edge rushers, theyre usually my favorite position to scout)
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This is something I agree with wholeheartedly. I believe you're only getting a taste of how good Ridley can be based on his college film.
Thinking he's simply a high floor guy as some have is, I believe, selling him short.
 
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