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Rookie Camp

Sledge Hammer

Sledge Hammer

Pro Bowler
Sami84 said:
I saw that slideshow. It was just photos..no information at all..
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What did you think of it. Baltimore sun has one to I believe. When ravens fans were texting me who was impressive I ran searches. I didn't pay much attention to what website it was on. Bowser btw looks laser focused. Ideal if he can translate his athletic gifts to toughness and football. Is he Jamie Collins or is he Eli Harold and Mingo? Humphrey is a really big cornerback. I would guess safety if I didn't know. Can't get over not drafting Howard. Can't help think Ronnie Lott
 
Sami84

Sami84

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Sledge Hammer said:
What did you think of it. Baltimore sun has one to I believe. When ravens fans were texting me who was impressive I ran searches. I didn't pay much attention to what website it was on. Bowser btw looks laser focused. Ideal if he can translate his athletic gifts to toughness and football. Is he Jamie Collins or is he Eli Harold and Mingo? Humphrey is a really big cornerback. I would guess safety if I didn't know.
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No idea..just photos...never made anything out of facial expressions as it pertains to how each guy was doing :p

I saw the baltimore sun one too. No information. I tried twitter, typed in all the rookies names..nothing..

I don't care much for rookie camp warriors. It's all about the games..We've all heard how impressive some guys look and then they arent even active on gameday.
 
Sami84

Sami84

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I think he saw the photo of wormley making a certain expression while elumenor was blocking him and he made a story out of it.

just saying..
 
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jimjim5

Practice Squad
This is all laughable. Also, anyone that couldn't see that Tim Williams is slightly built hasn't watched college football or just hasn't compared his measurables to a Suggs or Judon. There is a reason he was a 3rd rounder. Remember, he wasn't a full-time starter; he was a pass rusher - a very good pass rusher.
 
rossihunter2

rossihunter2

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jimjim5 said:
This is all laughable. Also, anyone that couldn't see that Tim Williams is slightly built hasn't watched college football or just hasn't compared his measurables to a Suggs or Judon. There is a reason he was a 3rd rounder. Remember, he wasn't a full-time starter; he was a pass rusher - a very good pass rusher.
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suggs is notoriously not a speed rusher though is he? and williams isnt coming in to play offensive line he was a pass rusher and has been drafted to be a pass rusher - and the reason he wasnt a full time starter is because teams rarely came out throwing on first down against bama's defense - and when he was asked to come in and set the edge he did ok and made a couple of plays behind the LoS

the reason he was a 3rd rounder was because of the drugs tests and the police incident nothing else - a number of league sources said that without the off-field issues that williams was a top 14 type player on play alone
 
Sami84

Sami84

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rossihunter2 said:
suggs is notoriously not a speed rusher though is he? and williams isnt coming in to play offensive line he was a pass rusher and has been drafted to be a pass rusher - and the reason he wasnt a full time starter is because teams rarely came out throwing on first down against bama's defense - and when he was asked to come in and set the edge he did ok and made a couple of plays behind the LoS

the reason he was a 3rd rounder was because of the drugs tests and the police incident nothing else - a number of league sources said that without the off-field issues that williams was a top 14 type player on play alone
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not sure how a player who doesnt play 3 downs could be a top 14 player.. Late first seems more truthful..
 
Ellicottraven

Ellicottraven

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Sledge Hammer said:
All over, some of it from observers and pics.
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From the one pic I saw Tim Williams looks the part. He looks big and strong in my view. One thing is true, either he is taller than 6'3" or Wormley, Siragusa and Jermaine are not as tall as they claim to be. They all looked the same height to me.
 
Tiz

Tiz

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HNL Raven said:
this is off topic but imma say it. This might get deleted so i hope you get to read it.

i know you are a mod for the board host forums, but the idea was to keep the community together and these forums are way better than boradhost. so why not migrate here? purpleflock has way more potential growing and surviving than a boardhost.
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Oh god no. I don't want all the old people in one spot.

As for the rookie camp. I have only seen what was on br.com and nothing indicating any player consistently struggled.

Regarding Williams one of the videos talked about how he wasn't a full time starter in college but was disruptive and a pass rusher. We will see how that translates here as I suspect his role will be limited to 3rd downs and he'll be the one used in various rushing spots like McPhee was

I suspect tyus and zdarius will get a bulk of the plays opposite Suggs

Going back to what was heard about camp tho I haven't read any true negatives and if there is a more in depth report out there I'd love to see it.
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Ellicottraven said:
From the one pic I saw Tim Williams looks the part. He looks big and strong in my view. One thing is true, either he is taller than 6'3" or Wormley, Siragusa and Jermaine are not as tall as they claim to be. They all looked the same height to me.
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From br.com the first impressions

Third-round pick Tim Williams certainly passes the eye test. He and Bowser are listed at practically the same size (both 6-foot-3 and Bowser five pounds heavier at 250), but Williams looks like a bigger player on the field. Williams' explosion off the edge, for a man that size, is shocking. Even on a wet field Saturday, he got off the line of scrimmage in a hurry.
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[doublepost=1494342892][/doublepost]http://m.baltimoreravens.com/videos...Practice/32100471-8c58-421c-a944-a62d64e8ab01

Link to the video highlights of camp
 
rossihunter2

rossihunter2

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Tiz said:
I suspect tyus and zdarius will get a bulk of the plays opposite Suggs
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im not sure zadarius is even on the team come final 53 cuts time - id expect judon or mclellan to win the early down role opposite suggs with maybe bowser at the sam or also as a candidate to play outside and then williams coming in on passing downs
im not sure zadarius offers above average play in any facet of olb play - he's not great at setting the edge and has zero threat rushing the passer - havent seen him in coverage but i dont imagine he offers more than correa or bowser in that aspect
 
Sledge Hammer

Sledge Hammer

Pro Bowler
Tiz said:
Oh god no. I don't want all the old people in one spot.

As for the rookie camp. I have only seen what was on br.com and nothing indicating any player consistently struggled.

Regarding Williams one of the videos talked about how he wasn't a full time starter in college but was disruptive and a pass rusher. We will see how that translates here as I suspect his role will be limited to 3rd downs and he'll be the one used in various rushing spots like McPhee was

I suspect tyus and zdarius will get a bulk of the plays opposite Suggs

Going back to what was heard about camp tho I haven't read any true negatives and if there is a more in depth report out there I'd love to see it.
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From br.com the first impressions


[doublepost=1494342892][/doublepost]http://m.baltimoreravens.com/videos...Practice/32100471-8c58-421c-a944-a62d64e8ab01

Link to the video highlights of camp
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Has to do with cleats players use in practice. Players used to be shorter than listed height often. However the combine measures now and its accurate. You will see players height seem to change from practice to practice.
[doublepost=1494343880][/doublepost]Tim Williams should become a 3 down menace. No reason to think he shouldn't. Much like Joey Porter a rush specialist in college. Steelers said he can definitely rush the QB but that's all right now.Cowher said that's what he wants. He said we can coach him up everything else. The ravens finally have taken this approach.
 
Tiz

Tiz

Practice Squad
Sledge. I don't take them referring to him looking bigger as him looking taller so from that aspect the cleat discussion would be pointless
 
Sledge Hammer

Sledge Hammer

Pro Bowler
Rookies what I think

Tim Williams. It's about time ravens put edge rush and athleticism over college schemes played. Has the skill to rush for sure but is Floyd and athletic for coverage plays.

Bowser. Optimistic but very reserved. Is he tough enough for NFL from Houston? Many athletic freaks are not impressing in NFL. Mingo Eli, Harold to name a couple.

Marlon Humphrey. Some of his tape isn't good at all. And his scouting reports are correct. The things he doesn't do well are rarely fixed in the NFL. However he should excel as a cover2 cornerback similar to a big Brandon Flowers. Maybe even SS

Nico Siragusa. Very Optimistic. But a little cautious. He expressed interest in center because he knows that is an open position. He is unusually physical for a Center which is what we all want in O-line across the board.

Jermaine Eluemunor. Optimistic but a little cautious. He is raw. However has everything you want in a guard. Big Strong and unusually athletic with unusual endurance for a near 340lb player. Played Rugby for fun at over 300 lbs. Not many players his size can do that.

Chuck Clark. Why did management have to mess up good draft. Made a nice sundae but couldn't put the cherry on top eh?
 
Militant X 1

Militant X 1

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Sledge Hammer

Sledge Hammer

Pro Bowler
rossihunter2 said:
suggs is notoriously not a speed rusher though is he? and williams isnt coming in to play offensive line he was a pass rusher and has been drafted to be a pass rusher - and the reason he wasnt a full time starter is because teams rarely came out throwing on first down against bama's defense - and when he was asked to come in and set the edge he did ok and made a couple of plays behind the LoS

the reason he was a 3rd rounder was because of the drugs tests and the police incident nothing else - a number of league sources said that without the off-field issues that williams was a top 14 type player on play alone
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League sources presumed? Lmao
 
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