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The 2021 Offseason Thread

rossihunter2

rossihunter2

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Simba said:
I had to miss the game last night. Obviously saw the Dobbins news and that’s no good. Anything else particularly standout good or bad? Box score shows obvious domination.
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1s on offence were only in that 1st drive - were driving, lamar looked good (and wasnt using his legs at all), beautiful ball to andrews and the running game was working albeit washington wasn't playing any starters

but... end of that first drive there was a poor 3 play stretch - sack on lamar (albeit maybe a coverage sack but stanley's guy got the sack), screen to jk where he gets injured and another sack where zeitler loses leverage

so a really promising situation soured in a 3 play stretch and then we never saw the starters again on offence which im not sure was the original plan to wholesale ring the changes after 1 drive

defensive starters dominated the non-1st team washington offence and then the backups dominated just as much
 
Simba

Simba

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rossihunter2 said:
1s on offence were only in that 1st drive - were driving, lamar looked good (and wasnt using his legs at all), beautiful ball to andrews and the running game was working albeit washington wasn't playing any starters

but... end of that first drive there was a poor 3 play stretch - sack on lamar (albeit maybe a coverage sack but stanley's guy got the sack), screen to jk where he gets injured and another sack where zeitler loses leverage

so a really promising situation soured in a 3 play stretch and then we never saw the starters again on offence which im not sure was the original plan to wholesale ring the changes after 1 drive

defensive starters dominated the non-1st team washington offence and then the backups dominated just as much
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How did the play time work in the secondary? Assuming Westry and Warrior got early run. Was Washington still a late entry?
 
BoredMarine13

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Josh Allen and the Bills look great. I think it’s pretty clear they have surpassed us in the AFC. If I’m ranking the Top 5 in the AFC:
1. Chiefs
2. Bills
3. Ravens
4. Titans
5. Browns


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rossihunter2

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Simba said:
How did the play time work in the secondary? Assuming Westry and Warrior got early run. Was Washington still a late entry?
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washington was in earlier than in previous games but not ahead of westry and warrior (had some slot snaps i think with them on the field also)

warrior had some nice moments triggering on defence

notably warrior and tyson williams were on the opening kickoff coverage which i hadnt noticed before in previous games
 
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Deebo813

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BoredMarine13 said:
Josh Allen and the Bills look great. I think it’s pretty clear they have surpassed us in the AFC. If I’m ranking the Top 5 in the AFC:
1. Chiefs
2. Bills
3. Ravens
4. Titans
5. Browns


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I like it.. browns can really go in anyspot tbh, including 1.
 
Simba

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rossihunter2 said:
washington was in earlier than in previous games but not ahead of westry and warrior (had some slot snaps i think with them on the field also)

warrior had some nice moments triggering on defence

notably warrior and tyson williams were on the opening kickoff coverage which i hadnt noticed before in previous games
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I did see a tweet about the ST angle... opined that they're likely evaluating where some of those bubble guys are viable on ST. But obviously Williams is now pretty safe but he was probably fighting for a spot pre Dobbins injury.
 
rossihunter2

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Simba said:
I did see a tweet about the ST angle... opined that they're likely evaluating where some of those bubble guys are viable on ST. But obviously Williams is now pretty safe but he was probably fighting for a spot pre Dobbins injury.
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notably they put williams on ice after the dobbins injury and we saw mcrary take most of the carries after that and occasionally spelled by a couple of ben mason carries (and even 1 from ricard at one point)
 
cdp

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BoredMarine13 said:
Josh Allen and the Bills look great. I think it’s pretty clear they have surpassed us in the AFC. If I’m ranking the Top 5 in the AFC:
1. Chiefs
2. Bills
3. Ravens
4. Titans
5. Browns


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Looks good to me. Browns have potential (lol) to surpass us.
 
BoredMarine13

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Deebo813 said:
I like it.. browns can really go in anyspot tbh, including 1.
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I think the Browns are going to be a good team for sure. The whole “ browns is the browns” argument doesn’t hold much weight for me.


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BoredMarine13

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cdp said:
Looks good to me. Browns have potential (lol) to surpass us.
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Yea I agree but only if Mayfield steps up. He is a good QB but just average in my mind


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Ellicottraven

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BoredMarine13 said:
Josh Allen and the Bills look great. I think it’s pretty clear they have surpassed us in the AFC. If I’m ranking the Top 5 in the AFC:
1. Chiefs
2. Bills
3. Ravens
4. Titans
5. Browns


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I believe this is exactly how they'll stack up after the regular season even without Dobbins:
1. Ravens
2. Chiefs
3. Titans
4. Bills
5. Steelers
 
cdp

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What do you think we'll do if Dobbins is out for 2021? I mean we're still a run oriented offense regardless of all WR acquisitons. Are there any decent RBs on the market?
 
BoredMarine13

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Lamar is super talented but the pieces around him are subpar or injured, so i don’t see us out scoring teams like the Bills or Chiefs.

Additionally, I’ve been saying it since day one , but rolling with Bowser and relying on Oweh/Houston/Mcpheee rotation is a mistake. We’re not getting to the Qb much this year with that group.

Just don’t see us taking down the Bills or Chiefs.


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JoeyFlex5

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cdp said:
What do you think we'll do if Dobbins is out for 2021? I mean we're still a run oriented offense regardless of all WR acquisitons. Are there any decent RBs on the market?
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not worth it. this rushing offense will continue to churn without dobbins, so will the passing game. this offense doesnt need an elite rb to be effective its just nice to have his explosive play threat. and what rbs are really out there anyway? Gus is RB1 capable on this offense and frankly hes shown us that we absolutely should trust him as our lead back, and let ty'son williams show what hes got.

honestly, if we need to get back that explosive element, let lamar get it back, put the ball in his hands a bit more if you think our run game becomes less valuable without dobbins.
 
BoredMarine13

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JoeyFlex5 said:
not worth it. this rushing offense will continue to churn without dobbins, so will the passing game. this offense doesnt need an elite rb to be effective its just nice to have his explosive play threat. and what rbs are really out there anyway? Gus is RB1 capable on this offense and frankly hes shown us that we absolutely should trust him as our lead back, and let ty'son williams show what hes got.

honestly, if we need to get back that explosive element, let lamar get it back, put the ball in his hands a bit more if you think our run game becomes less valuable without dobbins.
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Gus is phenomenal but he still lacks the necessary speed to be RB1. I’m comfortable rolling with Gus but the big play potential is certainly lessened without JK


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