2022 General Draft Thoughts

[rossihunter2]

Exactly. I just don't get that

i get that the movement skills and body control are crazy good with wilson, i get that he's well coached and has some route running upside

but chris olave's equally as explosive and fast and is also probably the best college route-runner in recent history, has more consistent hands and better length - not as good after the catch and that's obviously important but that can't be the be-all-end-all and it seems to define too much of both their grades in much of the media

i actually have similar grades on them but olave's ahead

 

[UPennChem]

i get that the movement skills and body control are crazy good with wilson, i get that he's well coached and has some route running upside

but chris olave's equally as explosive and fast and is also probably the best college route-runner in recent history, has more consistent hands and better length - not as good after the catch and that's obviously important but that can't be the be-all-end-all and it seems to define too much of both their grades in much of the media

i actually have similar grades on them but olave's ahead

My only issue with Olave is he doesn't even attempt to block. But Wilson can get shutdown by bigger more powerful corners in a way Olave doesn't imo

 

[UPennChem]

McShay said Dean could fall out of the first round. That would shock me.

 

[rossihunter2]

McShay said Dean could fall out of the first round. That would shock me.

ive been expecting this for months - think @Simba and i have talked about it a few times too on this forum - may well not even be the first Georgia LB to get drafted

but even if Dean is the next guy off the board after Lloyd, i fully expect that to be in the 2nd round

 

[rmcjacket23]

McShay said Dean could fall out of the first round. That would shock me.

He's precisely the kind of "name" player where like somebody trades up early in round 2 to get him. If he falls out of the first, he's going like 33-35 range for sure.
Much easier for teams to lean on game film and high-level SEC production after the first round.

 

[UPennChem]

ive been expecting this for months - think @Simba and i have talked about it a few times too on this forum - may well not even be the first Georgia LB to get drafted

but even if Dean is the next guy off the board after Lloyd, i fully expect that to be in the 2nd round

Would you be excited by him as a second round pick if he continued to slide?

 

[rossihunter2]

Would you be excited by him as a second round pick if he continued to slide?

for sure - wouldnt trade up for that position particularly but 100% im taking him at 45 (obviously dependent on who else makes it)
i dont have a 1st on him but i do have an early 2nd rounder - it's definitely not that i think he's trash lol...

he's a hyper-intelligent bundle of energy in perpetual motion who plays with great discipline and processing - there's certainly a lot to like about his game - it is worth pointing out though that he shares some of the same issues with getting off L2 blocks as PQ - stylistically very similar players so not necessarily a great fit to pair with Queen

someone like Quay walker in the same range or even channing tindall (who's a bit of a risk with his lack of playing time and coverage responsibilities) later on may well be better fits to pair with queen - there's a lot of guys in this class who look like 4-3 sams and not a ton of guys that look like immediate 3-4 mikes

 

[rossihunter2]

He's precisely the kind of "name" player where like somebody trades up early in round 2 to get him. If he falls out of the first, he's going like 33-35 range for sure.
Much easier for teams to lean on game film and high-level SEC production after the first round.

i mean sure but there's also a bunch of other SEC and other big program LBs on day 2 of this class in particular including 2 of Dean's teammates

 

[UPennChem]

for sure - wouldnt trade up for that position particularly but 100% im taking him at 45 (obviously dependent on who else makes it)
i dont have a 1st on him but i do have an early 2nd rounder - it's definitely not that i think he's trash lol...

he's a hyper-intelligent bundle of energy in perpetual motion who plays with great discipline and processing - there's certainly a lot to like about his game - it is worth pointing out though that he shares some of the same issues with getting off L2 blocks as PQ - stylistically very similar players so not necessarily a great fit to pair with Queen

someone like Quay walker in the same range or even channing tindall (who's a bit of a risk with his lack of playing time and coverage responsibilities) later on may well be better fits to pair with queen - there's a lot of guys in this class who look like 4-3 sams and not a ton of guys that look like immediate 3-4 mikes

I hear ya there. I think Lloyd will be on the board when we pick and I'm interested to see if he's even a realistic target in the CO opinion

 

[rossihunter2]

I hear ya there. I think Lloyd will be on the board when we pick and I'm interested to see if he's even a realistic target in the CO opinion

i love lloyd's tape lol - id legit have no issues with him being the pick - obviously you ideally want to pick another "more valuable" position but i think he comes in immediately as a force multiplier for the defence

 

[UPennChem]

i love lloyd's tape lol - id legit have no issues with him being the pick - obviously you ideally want to pick another "more valuable" position but i think he comes in immediately as a force multiplier for the defence

That's how I see it. I want corner to be the pick so bad. Or even EDGE if one of the premier guys are there. But if Hutchinson, Walker, and Thibodeaux are off the board and Sauce, Stingley, McDuffie and Hamilton are off the board, then we're really looking at Davis, Lloyd and Booth.

I think any of them would be a good pick and it would be interesting to see who we pick. But I also think Davis is gone by our pick too.

 

[rossihunter2]

That's how I see it. I want corner to be the pick so bad. Or even EDGE if one of the premier guys are there. But if Hutchinson, Walker, and Thibodeaux are off the board and Sauce, Stingley, McDuffie and Hamilton are off the board, then we're really looking at Davis, Lloyd and Booth.

I think any of them would be a good pick and it would be interesting to see who we pick. But I also think Davis is gone by our pick too.

we're pretty much in lock-step, i think, with how we see the top of this class lol
ive got booth up there ahead of mcduffie but otherwise i think we've probably got similar top 16 type boards

 

[cdp]

Arif Hasan has compiled a consensus big board from 60 analysts.
Unfortunately it's behind a pay wall so I can't share the article.
I have a feeling Penning will be picked much earlier. It's going to be interesting if Hamilton will go top 5.
Top 32:

1 Hutchinson	12 Jermaine Johnson	23 Zion Johnson
2 Hamilton	13 Lloyd	24 Booth
3 Ekwonu	14 Linderbaum	25 Penning
4 Neal	15 London	26 Wyatt
5 KT	16 Davis	27 Hill
6 Gardner	17 Karlaftis	28 Willis
7 Cross	18 McDuffie	29 Ojabo
8 Stingley	19 Olave	30 Dotson
9 Walker	20 Burks	31 Elam
10 Wilson	21 Green	32 Cine
11 J.Williams	22 Dean

 

[rossihunter2]

Arif Hasan has compiled a consensus big board from 60 analysts.
Unfortunately it's behind a pay wall so I can't share the article.
I have a feeling Penning will be picked much earlier. It's going to be interesting if Hamilton will go top 5.
Top 32:

1 Hutchinson	12 Jermaine Johnson	23 Zion Johnson
2 Hamilton	13 Lloyd	24 Booth
3 Ekwonu	14 Linderbaum	25 Penning
4 Neal	15 London	26 Wyatt
5 KT	16 Davis	27 Hill
6 Gardner	17 Karlaftis	28 Willis
7 Cross	18 McDuffie	29 Ojabo
8 Stingley	19 Olave	30 Dotson
9 Walker	20 Burks	31 Elam
10 Wilson	21 Green	32 Cine
11 J.Williams	22 Dean

here's the entire top 300... kept behind spoilers just in case the formatting destroys the page lol:

Spoiler: arif hasan consensus top 300

RANK	PLAYER	SCHOOL	POSITION	POS RK
1	Aidan Hutchinson	Michigan	ED	1
2	Kyle Hamilton	Notre Dame	S	1
3	Ikem Ekwonu	North Carolina State	OT	1
4	Evan Neal	Alabama	OT	2
5	Kayvon Thibodeaux	Oregon	ED	2
6	Ahmad Gardner	Cincinnati	CB	1
7	Charles Cross	Mississippi State	OT	3
8	Derek Stingley Jr.	LSU	CB	2
9	Travon Walker	Georgia	ED	3
10	Garrett Wilson	Ohio State	WR	1
11	Jameson Williams	Alabama	WR	2
12	Jermaine Johnson II	Florida State	ED	4
13	Devin Lloyd	Utah	LB	1
14	Tyler Linderbaum	Iowa	OC	1
15	Drake London	USC	WR	3
16	Jordan Davis	Georgia	DL1T	1
17	George Karlaftis	Purdue	ED	5
18	Trent McDuffie	Washington	CB	3
19	Chris Olave	Ohio State	WR	4
20	Treylon Burks	Arkansas	WR	5
21	Kenyon Green	Texas A&M	OG	1
22	Nakobe Dean	Georgia	LB	2
23	Zion Johnson	Boston College	OG	2
24	Andrew Booth Jr.	Clemson	CB	4
25	Trevor Penning	Northern Iowa	OT	4
26	Devonte Wyatt	Georgia	DL3T	1
27	Daxton Hill	Michigan	S	2
28	Malik Willis	Liberty	QB	1
29	David Ojabo	Michigan	ED	6
30	Jahan Dotson	Penn State	WR	6
31	Kaiir Elam	Florida	CB	5
32	Lewis Cine	Georgia	S	3
33	Kyler Gordon	Washington	CB	6
34	Kenny Pickett	Pittsburgh	QB	2
35	Bernhard Raimann	Central Michigan	OT	5
36	Kenneth Walker III	Michigan State	RB	1
37	Jaquan Brisker	Penn State	S	4
38	Boye Mafe	Minnesota	ED	7
39	Breece Hall	Iowa State	RB	2
40	George Pickens	Georgia	WR	7
41	Roger McCreary	Auburn	CB	7
42	Travis Jones	Connecticut	DL1T	2
43	Trey McBride	Colorado State	TE	1
44	Logan Hall	Houston	DL5T	1
45	Matt Corral	Mississippi	QB	3
46	Desmond Ridder	Cincinnati	QB	4
47	Christian Watson	North Dakota State	WR	8
48	Christian Harris	Alabama	LB	3
49	Chad Muma	Wyoming	LB	4
50	Arnold Ebiketie	Penn State	ED	8
51	Sam Howell	North Carolina	QB	5
52	Quay Walker	Georgia	LB	5
53	Tyler Smith	Tulsa	OT	6
54	DeMarvin Leal	Texas A&M	DL5T	2
55	Jalen Pitre	Baylor	S	5
56	Leo Chenal	Wisconsin	LB	6
57	Skyy Moore	Western Michigan	WR	9
58	John Metchie III	Alabama	WR	10
59	Perrion Winfrey	Oklahoma	DL3T	2
60	Nik Bonitto	Oklahoma	LB	7
61	Daniel Faalele	Minnesota	OT	7
62	Drake Jackson	USC	ED	9
63	Isaiah Spiller	Texas A&M	RB	3
64	Darian Kinnard	Kentucky	OG	3
65	Tariq Woolen	Texas-San Antonio	CB	8
66	Jalen Tolbert	South Alabama	WR	11
67	Kingsley Enagbare	South Carolina	ED	10
68	Greg Dulcich	UCLA	TE	2
69	Cameron Thomas	San Diego State	ED	11
70	Nicholas Petit-Frere	Ohio State	OT	8
71	Channing Tindall	Georgia	LB	8
72	Alec Pierce	Cincinnati	WR	12
73	Cole Strange	Chattanooga	OC	2
74	Myjai Sanders	Cincinnati	ED	12
75	Abraham Lucas	Washington State	OT	9
76	Jeremy Ruckert	Ohio State	TE	3
77	Sam Williams	Mississippi	ED	13
78	Phidarian Mathis	Alabama	DL1T	3
79	Troy Andersen	Montana State	LB	9
80	Carson Strong	Nevada	QB	6
81	David Bell	Purdue	WR	13
82	Dylan Parham (OG)	Memphis	OG	4
83	Josh Paschal	Kentucky	DL5T	3
84	Sean Rhyan	UCLA	OG	5
85	Jamaree Salyer	Georgia	OG	6
86	Dameon Pierce	Florida	RB	4
87	Wan'Dale Robinson	Kentucky	WR	14
88	Marcus Jones	Houston	NCB	1
89	Isaiah Likely	Coastal Carolina	TE	4
90	Khalil Shakir	Boise State	WR	15
91	Coby Bryant	Cincinnati	CB	9
92	Kerby Joseph	Illinois	S	6
93	Brian Asamoah	Oklahoma	LB	10
94	Calvin Austin III	Memphis	WR	16
95	Bryan Cook	Cincinnati	S	7
96	Ed Ingram	LSU	OG	7
97	Damone Clark	LSU	LB	11
98	James Cook	Georgia	RB	5
99	Nick Cross	Maryland	S	8
100	Jelani Woods	Virginia	TE	5
101	Cade Otton	Washington	TE	6
102	Cam Taylor-Britt	Nebraska	NCB	2
103	Martin Emerson	Mississippi State	CB	10
104	Alontae Taylor	Tennessee	CB	11
105	Cam Jurgens	Nebraska	OC	3
106	Brian Robinson Jr.	Alabama	RB	6
107	Charlie Kolar	Iowa State	TE	7
108	DeAngelo Malone	Western Kentucky	ED	14
109	Brandon Smith (LB)	Penn State	LB	12
110	Max Mitchell	Louisiana	OT	10
111	Rachaad White	Arizona State	RB	7
112	Darrian Beavers	Cincinnati	LB	13
113	Justyn Ross	Clemson	WR	17
114	Rasheed Walker	Penn State	OT	11
115	Luke Fortner	Kentucky	OC	4
116	Luke Goedeke	Central Michigan	OG	8
117	Jalyn Armour-Davis	Alabama	CB	12
118	Verone McKinley III	Oregon	S	9
119	Jerome Ford	Cincinnati	RB	8
120	Tyler Allgeier	Brigham Young	RB	9
121	Zachary Carter	Florida	ED	15
122	Zyon McCollum	Sam Houston	CB	13
123	Dominique Robinson	Miami (OH)	ED	16
124	Braxton Jones	Southern Utah	OT	12
125	Derion Kendrick	Georgia	CB	14
126	Zamir White	Georgia	RB	10
127	Kyren Williams	Notre Dame	RB	11
128	Kyle Philips	UCLA	WR	18
129	Thayer Munford	Ohio State	OT	13
130	Tyreke Smith	Ohio State	ED	17
131	Josh Jobe	Alabama	CB	15
132	Alex Wright	Alabama-Birmingham	ED	18
133	Joshua Williams	Fayetteville State	CB	16
134	Matthew Butler	Tennessee	DL3T	3
135	Jalen Wydermyer	Texas A&M	TE	8
136	Pierre Strong Jr.	South Dakota State	RB	12
137	Haskell Garrett	Ohio State	DL3T	4
138	Abram Smith	Baylor	RB	13
139	Bo Melton	Rutgers	WR	19
140	Velus Jones Jr.	Tennessee	WR	20
141	Malcolm Rodriguez	Oklahoma State	LB	14
142	Daniel Bellinger	San Diego State	TE	9
143	Jake Ferguson	Wisconsin	TE	10
144	Spencer Burford	Texas-San Antonio	OG	9
145	Amaré Barno	Virginia Tech	ED	19
146	Hassan Haskins	Michigan	RB	14
147	Mario Goodrich	Clemson	CB	17
148	JoJo Domann	Nebraska	LB	15
149	Dare Rosenthal	Kentucky	OT	14
150	Danny Gray	Southern Methodist	WR	21
151	Joshua Ezeudu	North Carolina	OG	10
152	Akayleb Evans	Missouri	CB	18
153	Isaiah Thomas (ED)	Oklahoma	ED	20
154	Tariq Castro-Fields	Penn State	CB	19
155	Mike Rose	Iowa State	LB	16
156	Damarri Mathis	Pittsburgh	CB	20
157	Lecitus Smith	Virginia Tech	OG	11
158	John Ridgeway	Arkansas	DL1T	4
159	Thomas Booker	Stanford	DL3T	5
160	JT Woods	Baylor	S	10
161	Micheal Clemons	Texas A&M	ED	21
162	Bailey Zappe	Western Kentucky	QB	7
163	Zach Tom	Wake Forest	OG	12
164	Alec Lindstrom	Boston College	OC	5
165	Otito Ogbonnia	UCLA	DL1T	5
166	Cade Mays	Tennessee	OT	15
167	Marquis Hayes	Oklahoma	OG	13
168	Romeo Doubs	Nevada	WR	22
169	Justin Shaffer	Georgia	OG	14
170	Neil Farrell Jr.	LSU	DL1T	6
171	Kevin Austin Jr.	Notre Dame	WR	23
172	Logan Bruss	Wisconsin	OT	17
173	D'Marco Jackson	Appalachian State	LB	17
174	Kellen Diesch	Arizona State	OT	16
175	Matt Araiza	San Diego State	P	1
176	Tyler Badie	Missouri	RB	15
177	Dane Belton	Iowa	S	11
178	Jesse Luketa	Penn State	ED	22
179	Ty Chandler	North Carolina	RB	16
180	Cordale Flott	LSU	CB	21
181	Erik Ezukanma	Texas Tech	WR	24
182	Eyioma Uwazurike	Iowa State	DL1T	7
183	D'Vonte Price	Florida International	RB	17
184	Jack Sanborn	Wisconsin	LB	18
185	Matt Waletzko	North Dakota	OT	18
186	Aaron Hansford	Texas A&M	LB	19
187	Tycen Anderson	Toledo	S	12
188	Terrel Bernard	Baylor	LB	20
189	Smoke Monday	Auburn	S	13
190	Tyquan Thornton	Baylor	WR	25
191	Dohnovan West	Arizona State	OC	6
192	Jeffrey Gunter	Coastal Carolina	ED	23
193	Chigoziem Okonkwo	Maryland	FB	1
194	Christopher Allen	Alabama	ED	24
195	Chris Paul	Tulsa	OG	15
196	Kalon Barnes	Baylor	NCB	3
197	Cole Turner	Nevada	TE	11
198	Kennedy Brooks	Oklahoma	RB	18
199	Cordell Volson	North Dakota State	OG	16
200	Leon O'Neal Jr.	Texas A&M	S	14
201	Mykael Wright	Oregon	NCB	4
202	Andrew Stueber	Michigan	OT	19
203	Zakoby McClain	Auburn	LB	21
204	Kaleb Eleby	Western Michigan	QB	8
205	Jayden Peevy	Texas A&M	DL3T	6
206	Grant Calcaterra	Southern Methodist	TE	12
207	Yusuf Corker	Kentucky	S	15
208	Makai Polk	Mississippi State	WR	26
209	Jack Coan	Notre Dame	QB	9
210	Jerrion Ealy	Mississippi	RB	19
211	Jaylen Watson	Washington State	CB	22
212	Christopher Hinton	Michigan	DL3T	7
213	Jalen Nailor	Michigan State	WR	27
214	Sterling Weatherford	Miami (OH)	LB	23
215	Micah McFadden	Indiana	LB	22
216	Charleston Rambo	Miami (FL)	WR	28
217	Obinna Eze	Texas Christian	OT	20
218	James Mitchell	Virginia Tech	TE	13
219	Kalia Davis	Central Florida	DL3T	8
220	Chasen Hines	LSU	OG	17
221	Percy Butler	Louisiana	S	16
222	Tyler Goodson	Iowa	RB	20
223	Esezi Otomewo	Minnesota	DL5T	4
224	Markquese Bell	Florida AM	S	17
225	Eric Johnson	Missouri State	DL3T	9
226	Bubba Bolden	Miami (FL)	S	18
227	Zonovan Knight	North Carolina State	RB	21
228	Jeremiah Gemmel	North Carolina	LB	24
229	Montaric Brown	Arkansas	NCB	5
230	Chase Lucas	Arizona State	NCB	6
231	Jack Jones	Arizona State	NCB	7
232	Sincere McCormick	Texas-San Antonio	RB	22
233	Reggie Roberson Jr.	Southern Methodist	WR	29
234	Dontario Drummond	Mississippi	WR	30
235	Jermaine Waller	Virginia Tech	CB	23
236	ZaQuandre White	South Carolina	RB	23
237	Quentin Lake	UCLA	S	19
238	Vederian Lowe	Illinois	OT	21
239	Tre Turner	Virginia Tech	WR	31
240	Delarrin Turner-Yell	Oklahoma	S	20
241	Juanyeh Thomas	Georgia Tech	S	21
242	Jeremiah Moon	Florida	ED	25
243	Isaiah Weston	Northern Iowa	WR	32
244	Decobie Durant	South Carolina State	NCB	8
245	Nick Zakelj	Fordham	OG	18
246	Kevin Harris	South Carolina	RB	24
247	Austin Allen	Nebraska	TE	14
248	Tyrion Davis-Price	LSU	RB	25
249	Myron Tagovailoa-Amosa	Notre Dame	ED	26
250	Jaivon Heiligh	Coastal Carolina	WR	33
251	Noah Elliss	Idaho	DL1T	8
252	Vincent Gray	Michigan	CB	24
253	E.J. Perry	Brown	QB	10
254	Damarion Williams	Houston	NCB	9
255	Luke Wattenberg	Washington	OC	7
256	Marquan McCall	Kentucky	DL1T	9
257	Josh Thompson	Texas	NCB	10
258	Kyron Johnson	Kansas	LB	25
259	Jashaun Corbin	Florida State	RB	26
260	Isaac Taylor-Stuart	USC	CB	25
261	Ja'Tyre Carter	Southern	OG	19
262	Zachary Thomas	San Diego State	OT	22
263	Dawson Deaton	Texas Tech	OC	8
264	Matt Henningsen	Wisconsin	DL5T	5
265	Tyrese Robinson	Oklahoma	OG	20
266	Dai'Jean Dixon	Nicholls	WR	34
267	Tyree Johnson	Texas A&M	ED	27
268	Cole Kelley	Southeastern Louisiana	QB	11
269	Isaih Pacheco	Rutgers	RB	27
270	Keaontay Ingram	USC	RB	28
271	Skylar Thompson	Kansas State	QB	12
272	Chance Campbell	Mississippi	LB	26
273	Connor Heyward	Michigan State	FB	2
274	Derrick Deese Jr.	San Jose State	TE	15
275	Myron Cunningham	Arkansas	OT	23
276	Kolby Harvell-Peel	Oklahoma State	S	22
277	William Dunkle	San Diego State	OG	21
278	Jordan Stout	Penn State	P	2
279	Ben Brown	Mississippi	OG	22
280	Josh Johnson	Tulsa	WR	35
281	Braylon Sanders	Mississippi	WR	36
282	David Anenih	Houston	ED	28
283	Gerrit Prince	Alabama-Birmingham	TE	16
284	Ty Fryfogle	Indiana	WR	37
285	Brock Purdy	Iowa State	QB	13
286	Nephi Sewell	Utah	LB	27
287	Tre Williams	Arkansas	ED	29
288	Reed Blankenship	Middle Tennessee	S	23
289	Max Borghi	Washington State	RB	29
290	Gregory Junior	Ouachita Baptist	CB	27
291	Chris Steele	Southern California	CB	26
292	Luke Tenuta	Virginia Tech	OT	24
293	Dustin Crum	Kent State	QB	14
294	Samori Toure	Nebraska	WR	38
295	CJ Verdell	Oregon	RB	30
296	Jaquarii Roberson	Wake Forest	WR	39
297	Josh Ross	Michigan	LB	28
298	Adam Anderson	Georgia	LB	29
299	Austin Deculus	LSU	OT	25
300	Chase Allen	Iowa State	TE	17

 

[UPennChem]

we're pretty much in lock-step, i think, with how we see the top of this class lol
ive got booth up there ahead of mcduffie but otherwise i think we've probably got similar top 16 type boards

Haha totally!!! I'm just too excited for Thursday

 

[rossihunter2]

Haha totally!!! I'm just too excited for Thursday

haha im cramming as many guys as i can before i release my board for general consumption lol

 

[UPennChem]

haha im cramming as many guys as i can before i release my board for general consumption lol

Looking forward to it!!

 

[marklar]

My wishlist if we're picking at 14:

- I'd be happy with any of the "consensus top 10" except Stingley - I don't take kindly to "effort flags" and would hate taking that kind of player that high. I really don't care about the talent level in that case.

- I'd be extatic: Jordan Davis
- I'd be really happy: Karlaftis, McDuffie, Wyatt (*if and only if* the DV is false, otherwise, fuck him, hope he goes undrafted in that case)
- I'd be happy: Booth
- I'd be pissed: Any ILB
- I'd throw a tantrum with: Any WR (fuck that primadonna position, I want neanderthal football), Lindenbaum

I wish I wanted Penning, he fits the neandethal mode, but he seems to be far too undisciplined and he'd be riding the bench pretty soon after a few personal fouls.

 

[rossihunter2]

My wishlist if we're picking at 14:

- I'd be happy with any of the "consensus top 10" except Stingley - I don't take kindly to "effort flags" and would hate taking that kind of player that high. I really don't care about the talent level in that case.

- I'd be extatic: Jordan Davis
- I'd be really happy: Karlaftis, McDuffie, Wyatt (*if and only if* the DV is false, otherwise, fuck him, hope he goes undrafted in that case)
- I'd be happy: Booth
- I'd be pissed: Any ILB
- I'd throw a tantrum with: Any WR (fuck that primadonna position, I want neanderthal football), Lindenbaum

I wish I wanted Penning, he fits the neandethal mode, but he seems to be far too undisciplined and he'd be riding the bench pretty soon after a few personal fouls.

what if i told you the effort flags are mostly bullshit...
the same bullshit kind of tag some have been giving thibodeaux and that's equally as bullshit lol...

 

[Ellicottraven]

My wishlist if we're picking at 14:

- I'd be happy with any of the "consensus top 10" except Stingley - I don't take kindly to "effort flags" and would hate taking that kind of player that high. I really don't care about the talent level in that case.

- I'd be extatic: Jordan Davis
- I'd be really happy: Karlaftis, McDuffie, Wyatt (*if and only if* the DV is false, otherwise, fuck him, hope he goes undrafted in that case)
- I'd be happy: Booth
- I'd be pissed: Any ILB
- I'd throw a tantrum with: Any WR (fuck that primadonna position, I want neanderthal football), Lindenbaum

I wish I wanted Penning, he fits the neandethal mode, but he seems to be far too undisciplined and he'd be riding the bench pretty soon after a few personal fouls.

Ecstatic with Thibodeuax, Stingley, Sauce or Jermaine Johnson.
Thrilled with Jordan Davis, Cross, Hamilton or Lloyd.
Happy with McDuffie, Penning or Walker.
Pissed if we select Karliftis or Linderbaum at 14. Would be fine with selecting them if we traded down to the 20s...