The 2022 Offseason Thread

[rmcjacket23]

No tight end drafted is to be a blocker but if they can't find a role they become one. I'm not suggesting that we turn Kolar into Boyle or anything, I'm thinking he puts on 10 pounds of muscle to his huge frame so he has a better chance of being on the field.

I think I miscommunicated by saying blocking tight end. I just mean a guy who can be big and block more than he use to. He could be an awesome readzone weapon with improved blocking added to his impressive ability to find coverage spots

I mean... plenty of TEs are drafted with no real desire to ever make them a part of the passing game as a pass catcher.
Like Boyle's college stats as a pass catcher aren't spectacular at all. His season year he averaged like 3/25 as a pass catcher on a per game basis. And that's at a small school.

 

[Deebo813]

but why do that when you could focus on receiving...

the fact of the matter is that most college TEs are hardly used at all unless you go to specific schools

I feel like the top tightends in nfl are usually the ones that actually have production in college.. only person i can think of who didnt really produce decent numbers is kittle..

 

[RavensMania]

I feel like the top tightends in nfl are usually the ones that actually have production in college.. only person i can think of who didnt really produce decent numbers is kittle..

many schools don't use TEs like they are used in the NFL

 

[Deebo813]

many schools don't use TEs like they are used in the NFL

I understand that but alot of them schools dnt have good tight ends anyway imo. there arent many kittles in college .. like the ones that have talent but maybe hard find because schools dnt use them..most colleges dnt use tightends like you say… but at same time.. you have those tightends that no matter what college they attended… they wouldve had to be used.

 

[rossihunter2]

I feel like the top tightends in nfl are usually the ones that actually have production in college.. only person i can think of who didnt really produce decent numbers is kittle..

i mean that's not necessarily true... i would say that maybe a third to even a half of the top TEs in the league hardly produced in college off the top of my head...

kittle
waller
schultz
knox
thomas

even more guys than that depending on what counts as "production" for a college TE...

it's less though about the fact that successful TEs do more often than not produce in college, it's that production is probably the least indicative of success of almost any position in the sport - there are lots and lots of TEs with great production who do absolutely nothing in the league - it's a traits position

 

[rossihunter2]

I understand that but alot of them schools dnt have good tight ends anyway imo. there arent many kittles in college .. like the ones that have talent but maybe hard find because schools dnt use them..most colleges dnt use tightends like you say… but at same time.. you have those tightends that no matter what college they attended… they wouldve had to be used.

the reason lots of TEs end up at certain schools is almost like a self-fulfilling prophesy... if you're a good TE, you're going to prioritise certain schools that have shown they feature TEs in their offence which means that those schools typically have better TEs and more reason to continue to emphasise that position

but i think it's worth pointing out that frequently there are TEs at big schools who are not getting used no matter their talent because that's not what the elite college offences look like

 

[allblackraven]

i mean that's not necessarily true... i would say that maybe a third to even a half of the top TEs in the league hardly produced in college off the top of my head...

kittle
waller
schultz
knox
thomas

even more guys than that depending on what counts as "production" for a college TE...

it's less though about the fact that successful TEs do more often than not produce in college, it's that production is probably the least indicative of success of almost any position in the sport - there are lots and lots of TEs with great production who do absolutely nothing in the league - it's a traits position

To be fair, Waller did not produce as a WR, not TE.

 

[UPennChem]

Is minicamp the next offseason event?

 

[rossihunter2]

Is minicamp the next offseason event?

4 more days of OTAs starting from tomorrow

and then 3 day minicamp from the 14th-16th

and then it's the month-long dead period

 

[UPennChem]

4 more days of OTAs starting from tomorrow

and then 3 day minicamp from the 14th-16th

and then it's the month-long dead period

Yuck! But thank you!!

 

[JO_75]

4 more days of OTAs starting from tomorrow

and then 3 day minicamp from the 14th-16th

and then it's the month-long dead period

Minicamp is Mandatory correct? So Lamar definitely going to have to show up right?

 

[rmcjacket23]

Minicamp is Mandatory correct? So Lamar definitely going to have to show up right?

Mandatory yes.
Have to show up? No, but he'll get fined if he doesn't, and the alarm flags should be going off for everybody. Nobody holds out of mandatory OTA's unless there's a contract issue or an injury.

 

[rossihunter2]

Minicamp is Mandatory correct? So Lamar definitely going to have to show up right?

Would incur fines for not turning up
If he doesn't turn up (and hasn't been excused) then that's when we should maybe be concerned that all is not what it seems with regards to his contract...

other than a contract holdout (which we're not expecting), we should expect him to be there in 8 days time

 

[ndub]

Have so much to say…. But no one wants to hear it lol. Everyone here is a Harbs stan

 

[ChainedBird]

Have so much to say…. But no one wants to hear it lol. Everyone here is a Harbs stan

Nah, spill your guts. I'm a pro-Harbs guy, but always down for an opposite opinion

 

[Deebo813]

i mean that's not necessarily true... i would say that maybe a third to even a half of the top TEs in the league hardly produced in college off the top of my head...

kittle
waller
schultz
knox
thomas

even more guys than that depending on what counts as "production" for a college TE...

it's less though about the fact that successful TEs do more often than not produce in college, it's that production is probably the least indicative of success of almost any position in the sport - there are lots and lots of TEs with great production who do absolutely nothing in the league - it's a traits position

Waller was a wr in college… dawson only had 588 yards this yr but before that he was putting up his college numbers for bills..idk who thomas is..

 

[allblackraven]

Waller was a wr in college… dawson only had 588 yards this yr but before that he was putting up his college numbers for bills..idk who thomas is..

Logan? He also was not a TE in college, played QB.

 

[Deebo813]

Logan? He also was not a TE in college, played QB.

Oh ok yea i remember him now

 

[Dom McRaven]

Have so much to say…. But no one wants to hear it lol. Everyone here is a Harbs stan

Speak ya piece and SAY IT WITH YOUR CHEST!

 

[ndub]

Speak ya piece and SAY IT WITH YOUR CHEST!

Well basically, I don't understand why we keep Greg Roman when clearly Lamar doesn't like the system/doesn't like running so much, as per what he said. Hollywood hated the system and wanted out. How many other receivers think the same thing? Can we afford to lose Lamar because we will most likely keep this system in place and most likely keep Roman, because he's Harbaugh's buddy?