The 2022 Offseason Thread

[JO_75]

So.... the disrespect this offseason continues with Harbaugh. Just saying if Vrabel won because of injuries and yeah they got the 1 seed despite it but yeah we were the one seed at one point too despite injuries to every position. Yet not a single vote for Harbaugh given everything we went through.

 

[JoeyFlex5]

So.... the disrespect this offseason continues with Harbaugh. Just saying if Vrabel won because of injuries and yeah they got the 1 seed despite it but yeah we were the one seed at one point too despite injuries to every position. Yet not a single vote for Harbaugh given everything we went through.

Had we converted the 2 point attempts John harbaugh runs away with it, Lamar misses andrews by an inch and Roman gives Huntley 1 read on half a field and a 1 foot wide window, and harbaugh doesn’t get a vote.

 

[Dom McRaven]

Had we converted the 2 point attempts John harbaugh runs away with it, Lamar misses andrews by an inch and Roman gives Huntley 1 read on half a field and a 1 foot wide window, and harbaugh doesn’t get a vote.

Don't forget the Browns pt.2 game where Huntley overthrew Hollywood after we cut the deficit to 2 which would've put us WELL into field goal range.

 

[RavensMania]

i think that means only OLB coach still a vacancy
i remember zrebiec saying in the last week or so that he wouldnt be surprised if we brought in some more assistants/quality control guys too this year

anyone have any information on him?

 

[Charm City]

Don’t know if it was official but I thought I read we were hiring the olb coach from Michigan?

here’s who we hired aside from michigans defensive analyst

 

[rmcjacket23]

So.... the disrespect this offseason continues with Harbaugh. Just saying if Vrabel won because of injuries and yeah they got the 1 seed despite it but yeah we were the one seed at one point too despite injuries to every position. Yet not a single vote for Harbaugh given everything we went through.

Well its not hard to tell why. You don't see a single name on that list on a team that didn't make the playoffs.

Regardless of what adversities you deal with, nobody is going to vote you for coach of the year when your team isn't even .500, doesn't make the playoffs, and lost 6 in a row to finish the season.

Like I think John had a very good year all things considered, but come on people. Nobody can objectively and honestly say they think he was the best coach in the league this year.

Titans significantly outperformed expectations with tons of injuries. The only thing that surprises me about this list is that Zac Taylor got 2 votes, and got less than LaFleur. That's absurd to me. Even if its a record season award only, I'd still vote for Taylor over LaFleur.

 

[rmcjacket23]

this are the excerpts about ronnie in his mailbag columns:

"Tackle certainly is a need and that’s a position I think they’ll address in the draft. High-quality starting tackles are just really expensive on the free-agent market."

Q:
"Given the contract that Mekari signed recently, it seems like he’ll be a starter going forward. Where do you see him lining up? — Gary K.

It will depend on what else they do along the offensive line. If Ronnie Stanley and Ja’Wuan Jones are healthy and the Ravens take a tackle early in the draft, Mekari could settle in at center or guard, assuming Bozeman departs. If the Ravens find their long-term center in the draft or free agency, then Mekari probably slots in at tackle. He’s a good piece to have because they know he can competently play all five positions up front. And look, we all saw last year how important that sixth and seventh offensive lineman is to a team. If the Ravens are healthy up front, there’s nothing wrong with Mekari being the sixth offensive lineman, regardless of his contract. The $5 million per year he’s making would be steep for a non-Week 1 starter, but Mekari’s versatility and experience make him so valuable either way."

"Nobody knows right now whether he’ll be able to play next year. DeCosta said he’s optimistic, but he declined to say where Stanley is at with his rehab. I spoke to Stanley in mid-November after he had the surgery and he didn’t know either. He said he was pretty confident about playing again, but he planned to take things slowly. What’s clear is the first surgery didn’t totally fix the problem and Stanley realized in Week 1 that it was going to be tough to play with the condition of his ankle. He’s hoping that having another surgery will allow him to change that, but there’s no guarantee. As for the specifics, both the Ravens and Stanley have declined on multiple occasions to talk about the extent of the injury and the nature of the surgeries."

None of that to me seems particularly new information - or any more worrying than anything we already know

I'm fine with pretty much all scenarios EXCEPT for Mekari being the starting Center. I personally wouldn't be thrilled with that. Him as a swing tackle, starting RT or even a starting Guard, I can live with.

 

[rossihunter2]

Had we converted the 2 point attempts John harbaugh runs away with it, Lamar misses andrews by an inch and Roman gives Huntley 1 read on half a field and a 1 foot wide window, and harbaugh doesn’t get a vote.

afc north almost completely shut out but have 3 of the best candidates in the league for the award

Taylor only getting 2 votes is not great
Harbaugh and Tomlin getting no votes after what they accomplished with their respective rosters is outrageous

 

[rossihunter2]

I'm fine with pretty much all scenarios EXCEPT for Mekari being the starting Center. I personally wouldn't be thrilled with that. Him as a swing tackle, starting RT or even a starting Guard, I can live with.

yeah I think it’s more likely Colon would start at C than mekari tbh even with his deal - we’ve done this sort of deal with OL before with James hurst and he was a 4 position backup which inevitably means they’ll play at some point... so there’s no need to “worry” about your 5m guy not playing (and in the unlikely event he doesn’t play then great - we managed to stay unprecedentedly healthy at the 2nd most important position on the team)

 

[rmcjacket23]

afc north almost completely shut out but have 3 of the best candidates in the league for the award

Taylor only getting 2 votes is not great
Harbaugh and Tomlin getting no votes after what they accomplished with their respective rosters is outrageous

I mean I don't really see what's so impressive about what Tomlin did though. Didn't have an outrageous amount of injuries. He won with a team that wasn't great, but like I don't see how they like overachieved or anything. I think they finished basically right at where most people thought, which was an average team.

I mean if you ask the public what happens if you put Aaron Rodgers on Pittsburgh tomorrow, they'd tell you they'd be probably the favorite in the AFC to go to the SB. So the roster must not be that terrible if Rodgers can walk in off the street and elevate them that high.

 

[rossihunter2]

I mean I don't really see what's so impressive about what Tomlin did though. Didn't have an outrageous amount of injuries. He won with a team that wasn't great, but like I don't see how they like overachieved or anything. I think they finished basically right at where most people thought, which was an average team.

I mean if you ask the public what happens if you put Aaron Rodgers on Pittsburgh tomorrow, they'd tell you they'd be probably the favorite in the AFC to go to the SB. So the roster must not be that terrible if Rodgers can walk in off the street and elevate them that high.

i mean talent-wise, i think you're vastly over-rating that team lol - i think in most other coaches's hands you're looking at a 4 or 5 win team...

 

[rmcjacket23]

i mean talent-wise, i think you're vastly over-rating that team lol - i think in most other coaches's hands you're looking at a 4 or 5 win team...

Ehh, maybe. I think they have an above average roster with a below average QB. Plenty of weapons at WR, a first round RB, and a defense that can at least compete in this league. You put a good QB with that group, and they win plenty of games.

I think Tomlin this past year is getting propped up by "Ben sucks" and he still made the playoffs. Like that's great and all, but there are plenty of coaches who exceeds expectations and/or won more games with more hardships than he did.

I'd vote him over Belichick, but no way Tomlin should get voted over Taylor, Vrabel, Bisacchia, or probably even somebody like McDermott. I think at best he's on par with Harbaugh. Team didn't meet expectations, but weren't terrible. That's not the vote of confidence you want in somebody winning COY.

 

[Deebo813]

afc north almost completely shut out but have 3 of the best candidates in the league for the award

Taylor only getting 2 votes is not great
Harbaugh and Tomlin getting no votes after what they accomplished with their respective rosters is outrageous

Yea but you dnt get any awards for losing… well votes in this case. Maybe if we wouldve made offs and won a game then hell yea

 

[Deebo813]

I mean I don't really see what's so impressive about what Tomlin did though. Didn't have an outrageous amount of injuries. He won with a team that wasn't great, but like I don't see how they like overachieved or anything. I think they finished basically right at where most people thought, which was an average team.

I mean if you ask the public what happens if you put Aaron Rodgers on Pittsburgh tomorrow, they'd tell you they'd be probably the favorite in the AFC to go to the SB. So the roster must not be that terrible if Rodgers can walk in off the street and elevate them that high.

Same can be said for arod and ravens, browns or even chargers

 

[rmcjacket23]

Same can be said for arod and ravens, browns or even chargers

Sure... if healthy. Aaron Rodgers on the Ravens team that played the last month of the season has zero shot of being a contender.

If there's one thing we know about Rodgers, it's Rodgers + bad Oline = not beating good teams.

You put Rodgers on a team with a below average Oline and a defense that's in the bottom 5 in passing, and you're dead weight. He's had WAY more talent on his rosters the last few years and hasn't made it to the SB.

On Cleveland, he does very well. On Denver, he does very well.

That's my whole point. The entire basis for putting up Tomlin as coach of the year is based on Ben sucking. If they upgrade the QB, that roster competes extremely well in the AFC. I put Rodgers on the Jags, Jets, Texans, they're not competing to do anything.

 

[Deebo813]

Sure... if healthy. Aaron Rodgers on the Ravens team that played the last month of the season has zero shot of being a contender.

If there's one thing we know about Rodgers, it's Rodgers + bad Oline = not beating good teams.

You put Rodgers on a team with a below average Oline and a defense that's in the bottom 5 in passing, and you're dead weight. He's had WAY more talent on his rosters the last few years and hasn't made it to the SB.

On Cleveland, he does very well. On Denver, he does very well.

That's my whole point. The entire basis for putting up Tomlin as coach of the year is based on Ben sucking. If they upgrade the QB, that roster competes extremely well in the AFC. I put Rodgers on the Jags, Jets, Texans, they're not competing to do anything.

Arod is a bad example but yea i get what youre saying about steelers..

 

[purplepittabread88]

what who said about ronnie?

you talking about EDC... he was talking about ronnie in 2021 not 2022

here's the full clip:


we may draft a tackle at 14 (if one we like is there) - but that's somewhat separate to ronnie's recovery - we're going to be looking for a talented tackle this offseason from somewhere no matter whether ronnie's ok or not

Ah Jamm said no one knows if Ronnie is going to play next year after stating the contract talks about Lamar, so I thought Jeff Z made a comment on the uncertainty of Ronnie

 

[rossihunter2]

Ah Jamm said no one knows if Ronnie is going to play next year after stating the contract talks about Lamar, so I thought Jeff Z made a comment on the uncertainty of Ronnie

no all we know is basically all we’ve known for months which is that Ronnie had a second set of surgeries to hopefully be back for 2022 - no guarantees but that’s why he got the surgery and no indications that it hasn’t gone well so far

 

[Deebo813]

Ah Jamm said no one knows if Ronnie is going to play next year after stating the contract talks about Lamar, so I thought Jeff Z made a comment on the uncertainty of Ronnie

Its why i think we its either ot or pass rusher in first rnd..

 

[purplepittabread88]

Its why i think we its either ot or pass rusher in first rnd..

I completely agree I literally can’t think of anything else