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The Running Game, The 4th Quarter and Everyone's Blood Pressure

This just honestly hasn't been brought up yet. Let me be clear here as well. I don't think outside of maybe 5 total plays this whole season that Roman's SITUATIONAL play calling has been bad. In fact I think he's been pretty good overall.

With that being said the season has been (ignoring the defense entirely) a tale of two of two offenses, weeks 1-3, and 4-7. So if it's not the situational play calling, it can really only be one of two other possibilities. Consistent poor player execution and the scheme in general. We've certainly seen poor player execution, but today's game I'd argue was almost entirely based on the offensive scheme being almost totally understood by the Browns defense.

Roman called a huge number of run plays (which were working) and when we passed were always in heavy sets. You'd expect that generally, when an offense is having a very good game on the ground play action would be very effective. We had no play action success at all today. And it wasn't because Roman didn't call them. He did and what I saw was that consistently, no one was open following the play action. The most egregious was a play in the earlier part of the game where we had 2 guys running routes into the same ish area of their secondary which had 5 defenders.

Long story short here, even when we play penalty free and disciplined offense the team is still struggling especially in the redzone. Roman is calling imo a very limited offense in terms of the personnel groupings. The question becomes why?

Well if you think about it, he actually only has 4 WRs total at his disposal. Additionally, those 4 WRs are not great. Bateman is playing like a WR2 and Duv like a WR3. DRob and Proche playing like PS players. So what is Roman even to do? Roman can't even run a 3 WR set in good faith because he doesn't have 3 NFL WRs. And it's a negative feedback loop.

His WRs are bad so they don't get separation. He therfore doesn't use them and calls a limited scheme. This makes the offense predictable. This makes his bad WRs have an even harder time getting separation.

I think it's pretty obvious to win in this league you mead a top 3rd passing game, this team does not have that and it starts with EDC doing precisely nothing to address WR except for shipping out Hollywood.
 
Watching Ravens games in the 4th quarter while trying to protect a lead is the best way to have an aneurysm. A few more of these, and it is a recipe for one of those bursting. Sheesh. These fuckers led by my own son make it so hard to watch.
 
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Hypothesis: EDC didn't arm this team with any WR talent. This has caused Roman to call a limited heavy set based offense. With tape that has become easy to defend. This is one possible explanation for the offensive struggles outside poor player execution.
 
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I understand but it was Gus’ first game back. Unfortunately Drake took a step back from last week. Hill turned over the ball at a critical time, but I thought he needed more touches.
I was pleasantly surprised with Gus, but like you said- wanted more from Hill and Drake.
 
Yeah, I think you are on the right track, and it’s the main reason why I think it’s a dumb idea to not have an agent handling his contract. Play football, concentrate on football and let someone else handle the business side of things. At the end of the day he’s getting paid to play football.
I get that whole, "get an agent" thing. I do! But, I also understand wanting to take your career into your own hands and keeping that money "in-house" so to speak. Lamar is not the first player to not have an agent. However, I do believe that his playful demeanor has definitely been affected by negotiations. He's not the same cat that we've seen on the field before the negotiations began. And there is no doubt, that Lamar perhaps, "assumed" that how he's been off the field and the excitement and energy that he brought to the Ravens organization, the city of Baltimore, and the Ravens fanbase over the past few years, warranted his receiving a new contract prior to the season beginning. That didn't happen! And now look how he's playing. Just trying to connect a dot.
 
It does feel like the philosophy of the offense is fundamentally against the players we have available. Duv and Bateman are at their best when getting quick passes in space, and Gus is underrated as a receiving back. By all rights we should be spreading teams out, making good matchups for quick passes, and giving Lamar running lanes in the middle. Instead we have guys bunched together, and long developing plays with deep dropbacks.

Zappe, a third string QB for the Patriots put up over 300 passing yards and a couple passing touchdowns against that defense, so we shouldn't act like it just can't be done with our personnel.
 
I get that whole, "get an agent" thing. I do! But, I also understand wanting to take your career into your own hands and keeping that money "in-house" so to speak. Lamar is not the first player to not have an agent. However, I do believe that his playful demeanor has definitely been affected by negotiations. He's not the same cat that we've seen on the field before the negotiations began. And there is no doubt, that Lamar perhaps, "assumed" that how he's been off the field and the excitement and energy that he brought to the Ravens organization, the city of Baltimore, and the Ravens fanbase over the past few years, warranted his receiving a new contract prior to the season beginning. That didn't happen! And now look how he's playing. Just trying to connect a dot.

But the thing is he clearly wants a thing that the Ravens, and probably the overwhelming majority of the NFL, are not willing to do and that is fully guarantee a deal. That is clearly the impasse. When there is an impasse the ownership is going to explain why they are not willing to cross that bridge and I can bet he is not happy to hear about that but that is the dirty part of negotiating that he signed up for.
 
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The game was 20-13 after the Browns hit the FG. I left my house to take my mom to the airport to visit some family overseas. I didn't even bother record the game because I refused to let this team piss me off. That's why you didn't hear from me from a couple of hours.

I mean, yeah, I'm happy that we got a DIVISION win. One more win than our division win total from last year, but my goodness are we mid AF. I already know this defense is gonna get bent against Brady regardless of their poor performance today.
 
The game was 20-13 after the Browns hit the FG. I left my house to take my mom to the airport to visit some family overseas. I didn't even bother record the game because I refused to let this team piss me off. That's why you didn't hear from me from a couple of hours.

I mean, yeah, I'm happy that we got a DIVISION win. One more win than our division win total from last year, but my goodness are we mid AF. I already know this defense is gonna get bent against Brady regardless of their poor performance today.

Not just Brady playing bad today but last week and the week before and the week before and honestly every single week except for the game against the Chiefs (that they lost) so they have been horrid for 6 out of 7 games but I am sure they will magically turn it on against a defense that has actually been better than the ones they are failing against because pessimism is a thing I guess.
 
Not just Brady playing bad today but last week and the week before and the week before and honestly every single week except for the game against the Chiefs (that they lost) so they have been horrid for 6 out of 7 games but I am sure they will magically turn it on against a defense that has actually been better than the ones they are failing against because pessimism is a thing I guess.
Have you seen our defense constantly choke in the 2nd half? Or our offense that looks average at best? You can call pessimism if you want, I call it being realistic. It's a weekly pattern.
 
This is the only explanation.
And it is all connected and related.

Start with bad WR separation --> limited offensive scheme --> easy to defend --> extra hard to get separation --> bad offense --> gets figured out of the course of a game --> low or zero fourth quarter points --> blowing games
 
But the thing is he clearly wants a thing that the Ravens, and probably the overwhelming majority of the NFL, are not willing to do and that is full guarantee a deal. That is clearly the impasse. When there is an impasse the ownership is going to explain why they are not willing to cross that bridge and I can bet he is not happy to hear about that but that is the dirty part of negotiating that he signed up for.
I mentioned that and that is what has perhaps affected him mentally.
 
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