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Lamar Jackson
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that makes sense. He's the Plaid
it is but that's a negative for both him and the team. I think we will work out a long term contract before the deadline next season.
UPennChem
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I'm not at all saying it's the case. I'm just thinking about the situation. If you kinda listen to the language that people use MAYBE MAYBE MAYBE it implies Steve has something to do with it. Or maybe that's total crap idk.
For example, both sides are highly motivated. I believe that.
Lamar is simply not worried about it. I believe that.
Does this not potentially paint a picture where Lamar and EDC are largely on the same page maybe quibbling of small stuff, but that Steve is reluctant to actually dole out the mega and probably largely of not entirely guaranteed deal?
i think he's a smart guy for dumb people... dude's just constantly spending his money trying to reinvent worse versions of trains
space x is cool though
UPennChem
Hall of Famer
Again I'm not saying this the case just throwing out any possibility. Lamar likely wants a long term deal at least 5 years. And Steve may be worried he's 1 injury away from ending his career and he doesn't want to be in the situation he was with Flacco where you have a huge amount of cap tied up in a guy who's not winning you football games.
As a fan we probably say but yeah Steve I get that but this is your once in a lifetime shot. And if it doesn't work out I won't blame you. But it's another thing to be writing a check that size. Idk my dude just thinking
i think that's just so unlike steve - he hires these guys for a reason and has always preached that if he was interfering it meant that he clearly didnt trust them and that he might as well fire them and hire someone else
he has these guys in these roles because he trusts them
his negative feelings about fully guaranteed deals are more about how that changes the NFL landscape (as an owner but not as the ravens owner) - in terms of the actual money we're paying, it really doesnt matter all that much if we have to guarantee 200m over 5 years of a deal because lamar's gonna see all that money in basically all possible situations... if he was a less rich owner, i think you could potentially see some hesitancy about the structure of the deal if it required a massive signing bonus or option bonus in year 2 that meant he had to fork out a large percentage of the money over the first 2 years... but i dont think steve has ever had an issue with those types of contracts and he's a very wealthy owner most likely in the top 10 richest of nfl owners
UPennChem
Hall of Famer
Yeah again I'm just not at all implying this was the reason. Just trying to think of what degrees of freedom exist for the contract extension and it is true Steve is a factor. Whether it's an important one or not is a different story.
BoredMarine13
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Well he’s laying quite a bit in the near future. Assuming they agreed on the contract Any fully guaranteed payments not made by March 31 must be placed in escrow, up to 75 percent of the total contract. That’s a significant chunk of change when your talking 230 mil +
BoredMarine13
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Literally everything is speculation unless it comes from the Ravens or Lamar directly. To assume one way or another is pointless…. However this is the most information we’ve had to go on
my point being that it's not information its speculation that itself admits doesnt come from any source even remotely related to the negotiations
Tank
Hall of Famer
Yeah, 95% of what is discussed here is based on speculation.
BoredMarine13
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Seems like a guarantee with the way things are trending
JAAM
Hall of Famer
Drool
BoredMarine13
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Um ok lol. Well it is a message board filled with 99% speculation. I didn’t know we were redefining information, I’ll let you have at it to feel better. I put a little more faith in folks with NFL connections , then I do from random fans posting online. However little the faith maybe, it’s still more info than previously
BoredMarine13
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Lol right . It’s all just good fun but some dudes take it way too serious.
allblackraven
Hall of Famer
On principle, based on his comment about the Browns-Watson contract.
I can't imagine the issue being a big gap between the offer and what Lamar wants, if it isn't a fully guaranteed contract. Maybe the length of it?
BoredMarine13
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I’m curious why you can’t imagine the issue being a pay gap? Steve already said the Watson deal was BS and Lamar is well within his right based off his play to request more than Watson.
People keep saying we know Lamar is going to get paid and that’s true , but they have no idea how much. For some reason fans think Lamar will be reasonable , but why should he? He is better than Watson and if the Ravens don’t give him 230-250 guaranteed he knows someone else will after a franchise tag or two.
Tank
Hall of Famer
Maybe……. depending upon his level of play under the tag.
It seems the Ravens are willing to wait and use the tag, looking for further proof of long term value. It also seems that Lamar is the one risking the most in the scenario.