Yeah, I'd say fans are a bit selfish. At the end of the day we want him to take any deal offered, and then won't give a fuck when he's forty and barely able to walk (seriously, a lot of retired players are physically fucked up). Most fans don't really care about individual players, only the team and want the player to only care about the team rather than their own future.
Hopefully that’s not true , would mean Lamar is gone
I’m sure Lamar will be set for the rest of his life , immediate family included, with any final deal on his next contract.
The odds of Lamar being traded are very high.
Well that’s your opinion but I disagree with the generalization. I mean I think a vast majority would like to see Lamar get a FAIR deal and be our QB for the future. The debate is around all of the details about what is a fair deal.
Let's see 133 gtd money up front in signing bonus. The highest ever. Another 50 or so gtd cuz he's uncuttable thru base pay and whatever bonuses. Yeah I'm a little selfish if you want to call it that. If you want to talk about players being f'd up they know the risks and even just making the minimum you can be pretty much set since a lot of people don't even make the minimum they get in 20 yrs. These guys also got free college education to further their career. You can be f'd up permanently in a low paying career. Who cares about George from Ohio that got his hand mangled from a machine in a manufacturing plant. Bottomline there is health insurances that was bargained thru the CBA. No different for workman's comp/disability pay for the regular joe.
Signing bonuses allow for proration also. But bonuses don't have to be prorated. So team could easily say we're going to do a $50M roster bonus, payable this year, that counts entirely against the 2023 cap. Ravens wouldn't be able to handle it cap-wise.
we shouldnt feel some type of way cause theyre rich and we are poor or that they had a free college ride and we had to pay..
The gtd $ at signing isn't just one payment. Its typically what will be gtd in year the first few years of the deal. Nobody is laying out a $133M cash flow in year 1. Not even the richest owner will do that.
But no reason for Lamar to accept those terms. I’m sure he’d much rather have the ability for that roster bonus to be restructured because it’s more money up front and longer term security on his deal with that being prorated and the increase in dead money later in the contract. Protects him if he sucks or if he’s great and needs a new deal. Forces the team to the table earlier in the latter circumstance.
Fair enough but 133 guaranteed shatters this.
Only talking about the first year. In this case, Lamar gets at least $50M in year 1, so he's very happy with that. He's still going to get 75-80% of that guaranteed anyway, and smart teams have stopped caring about dead money impact 5-6 years down the line, because its a sunk cost. Depending on who the team is, they may be adding void years to the end of it anyway.
OK, but that's just Kyler. Wilson just got $124M gtd at signing, so $133M doesn't shatter that. Realistically, Ravens probably need to be in the $140M range in terms of gtd at signing $ to even be competitive in the marketplace.
Nothing. It always cracks me up when people question Lamar’s intelligence. I think they’re just projecting. @Thezone27, you’re an idiot.
thanc you for the cind compliment
IMO, Lamar has been asking for a fully guaranteed deal like Watson's . I'll be surprised if we find out later that this was not the case.