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Lamar Jackson

rossihunter2

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To me, it started last season. Even early in the season (and @ravenslord can attest to this), I was like don't even look at the numbers. Watching the games, he took the command of an offense relatively quick. Going through his reads, deciding when to take off and scramble, etc. Something just felt different. He seemed more of a leader in this new offense especially after he got paid. It was the best I've seen him look under center (even better than 2019).

What we're seeing this season is the sequel with basically the same group of pass-catchers but a better RB (no disrespect to Gus). It's amazing what happens to a QB when your OC actually WANTS to listen and work with said QB while the front office supplies him with competent weapons (and I realize the sheer irony given who and where we're playing this week considering what happened last year when we played who and where).

The only two (well three) valid criticism I'm willing to listen to are his performances against the Steelers and his performances in the playoffs (I guess you can say the Chiefs as well, but it's not like he's GOD AWFUL against them). Against the Steelers, I have no idea what to make of his past games, but his playoff games aren't ALL his fault. He just needs to get over that mental hurdle and he should be golden.

it's funny because before the season, everyone was rightfully saying that it would be at least a season before we saw the best of this offence and then we got the MVP year and a lot of people just assumed that was the ceiling because it was so high already

and then this year has come along with lamar looking truly comfortable in the offence and monken looking truly comfortable with lamar and it's historic
 

Dom McRaven

Hall of Famer
it's funny because before the season, everyone was rightfully saying that it would be at least a season before we saw the best of this offence and then we got the MVP year and a lot of people just assumed that was the ceiling because it was so high already

and then this year has come along with lamar looking truly comfortable in the offence and monken looking truly comfortable with lamar and it's historic
Even before the season started, I expected Lamar to have a MVP caliber season when we signed OBJ and drafted Zay. All I needed was the OL to be competent.

Earlier on last season, the biggest concern was the offense in the 2nd half. Went from looking great to inadequate cruise control. People bring up the low number of Lamar's passing TDs during that part of the season, but they don't realize the number of times we got to 1st and goal from the goal-line (or the 2 or 3 yard line), what the playcall was and how damn near automatic that was regarding converting that into a TD.
 

JoeyFlex5

Hall of Famer
Even before the season started, I expected Lamar to have a MVP caliber season when we signed OBJ and drafted Zay. All I needed was the OL to be competent.

Earlier on last season, the biggest concern was the offense in the 2nd half. Went from looking great to inadequate cruise control. People bring up the low number of Lamar's passing TDs during that part of the season, but they don't realize the number of times we got to 1st and goal from the goal-line (or the 2 or 3 yard line), what the playcall was and how damn near automatic that was regarding converting that into a TD.
Gus up the middle was a killer last year in the red zone.
 

JoeyFlex5

Hall of Famer
Bruh it was like Steph Curry from the free throw line. We really didn't get to 2nd and goal that much let alone THIRD and goal.
It’s odd how Henry’s having the year he’s having, but his redzone TDs don’t look nearly as easy as Gus’ red zone TDs last year. He was walking right in uncontested. Henry has at least one defender bouncing off of him every time.
 

rossihunter2

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Moderator
It’s odd how Henry’s having the year he’s having, but his redzone TDs don’t look nearly as easy as Gus’ red zone TDs last year. He was walking right in uncontested. Henry has at least one defender bouncing off of him every time.

Morgan Moses and Kevin zeitler coming off the ball on 1st and goal with a John Simpson pull behind them is unimaginable horror for DL and LBs to deal with
 

Tank

Hall of Famer

Lamar Jackson was the NFL’s MVP last season. Then he got better at (almost) everything.


Jonas Shaffer
11/14/2024 5:30 a.m. EST

In July, about a week before the start of Ravens training camp, coach John Harbaugh told Lamar Jackson he thought the quarterback could be better.

Better than Jackson was last year, when he won his second NFL Most Valuable Player award. Better than any other quarterback in the league. Better than any other quarterback in league history.

“The vision that we have together is that Lamar Jackson is going to become and be known and be recognized as the greatest quarterback ever to play in the history of the National Football League,” Harbaugh said in mid-July. “That’s the vision. It’s going to happen by Lamar, his work ethic and his brilliant talent, by all of us pouring into that effort together as a team, and by the grace of God and God’s good will. That’s how it’s going to happen. And I believe it like we’ve already seen it.”

Harbaugh’s grand vision has come to life. Ahead of Sunday’s AFC North showdown against the Pittsburgh Steelers, Jackson is not just the prohibitive favorite to repeat as NFL MVP. He’s also better than he was last year in almost every way. Weaknesses have turned into strengths, and strengths into superpowers.

Jackson has been “intentional about playing as well as he can across the board,” Harbaugh said Monday, and his development in coordinator Todd Monken’s offense has almost bulletproofed his game. Jackson is elite when pressured and when not pressured, elite in the shotgun and under center, elite on throws outside the numbers and inside the numbers.

“Everything’s just slowing down,” he said last month of his growth, and defenses haven’t caught up yet. The Ravens have the NFL’s best offense, with no close runner-up; the gap between them and the second-ranked Washington Commanders in DVOA, FTN’s way for measuring how good a team has been based on the quality of their competition, is bigger than the gap between the Commanders and the 14th-ranked Philadelphia Eagles.

“Obviously, we’re not perfect,” wide receiver Rashod Bateman said Wednesday. “We’ve won some, and we’ve lost some. But I definitely think we’ve shown the ability to beat anybody.”

Jackson’s adaptability is the Ravens’ skeleton key. His well-rounded development since last year has turned him into one of the NFL’s most productive passers (2,669 passing yards, 24 touchdowns and two interceptions) in almost every scenario imaginable. Here’s a look at how Jackson has improved against a range of coverages, with certain throw types, in various game situations and against pressure — and how those gains stack up in recent NFL history.

Coverages​

Over his first six seasons in Baltimore, Jackson struggled at times to handle heavy-pressure looks. Even last year, he wilted against “Cover 0” (man-to-man with heavy pressure and no deep-lying defenders), going 13-for-27 for 90 yards, according to TruMedia.


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This year, with a better command of the offense and another year of chemistry with his receivers, Jackson has had answers for every defensive call. Among the dozens of quarterbacks who’ve attempted at least 20 passes against a specific coverage in a season since 2020, Jackson ranks in the 83rd percentile against Cover 0 in expected points added per pass attempt, in the 89th percentile against Cover 1, the 92nd percentile against Cover 2, the 97th percentile against Cover 3, the 99th percentile against Cover 4 and the 100th percentile against Cover 6.

Last year, Jackson ranked above the 90th percentile against just one look: Cover 2 (94th).


Throw types​

Jackson can make every kind of throw.

Need something quick? The Ravens’ rejuvenated screen game has been one of the NFL’s best, and Jackson’s EPA per attempt on throws delivered in 2.5 seconds or less this season ranks as the highest for a qualifying quarterback since 2020. He’s also in the 100th percentile on short throws (0 to 9 yards downfield).

Need to wait for something to develop? That’s fine, too. The elusive Jackson ranks in the 96th percentile on pass attempts coming at least four seconds after the snap and in the 62nd percentile on passes of at least 20 air yards.


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Need something near the sideline? Jackson has the arm strength and accuracy to help. He’s in the 100th percentile on throws outside the numbers, all while remaining as ruthless as ever over the middle. (Yes, he’s in the 100th percentile on throws between the numbers, too.)


Game situations​

It doesn’t matter where Jackson finds himself. He’s found ways to make the Ravens’ passing game work.

On throws from inside the pocket, he’s in the 100th percentile among qualifying quarterbacks since 2020, up from the 48th last year. On throws inside the red zone, he’s in the 99th percentile, up from the 60th last year.

Play-action remains a cheat code for Jackson (100th percentile), but now he’s elite on drop-backs without run fakes, too (100th percentile).

The arrival of running back Derrick Henry has also juiced the Ravens’ under-center passing attack, lifting Jackson’s EPA per attempt from the 80th percentile to the 93rd.


Under pressure​

Jackson, unsurprisingly, has dominated when not pressured or blitzed, ranking in the 100th percentile in both categories this season.

But Jackson has handled heat, too. He’s in the 99th percentile when pressured, a notable improvement on his 2023 mark (75th percentile), and in the 99th percentile when blitzed, a far more dramatic turnaround (38th percentile).

Jackson’s pressure mitigation has fueled his rising efficiency. Last year, according to Pro Football Focus, defenses converted 18.2% of Jackson’s pressures into sacks. Now they’re converting just 11.7%, a 95th-percentile mark. Jackson’s overall sack rate this season is just 4.3%, a career low and one of the league’s best marks.
 

JAAM

Hall of Famer
Our boy

 

cobrajet

Hall of Famer
Anyone else tired of hearing about how Josh Allen deserves the MVP over Lamar Jackson, because Lamar got to play the Giants to pad his stats and Josh had to play the Lions, one of the best teams in the NFL? This argument is bullshit! The Lions defense is a fucking shell of itself as compared to several weeks ago. They lost several players to injury including one of the best players in the League, Aiden Hutchinson, and on Sunday, the Lions lost three starters on defense, for the year, in one game. They were scraping the bottom of the barrel by halftime. I am tired of the Allen lovers pretending like any decent quarterback worth his salt would not have been able to carve up the Lions defense this past Sunday. Right now the Giants defense is better than the Lions.
 

Adreme

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Anyone else tired of hearing about how Josh Allen deserves the MVP over Lamar Jackson, because Lamar got to play the Giants to pad his stats and Josh had to play the Lions, one of the best teams in the NFL? This argument is bullshit! The Lions defense is a fucking shell of itself as compared to several weeks ago. They lost several players to injury including one of the best players in the League, Aiden Hutchinson, and on Sunday, the Lions lost three starters on defense, for the year, in one game. They were scraping the bottom of the barrel by halftime. I am tired of the Allen lovers pretending like any decent quarterback worth his salt would not have been able to carve up the Lions defense this past Sunday. Right now the Giants defense is better than the Lions.
It’s also because the MVP comes from the top 2 seeds. So unless the Bills actually start losing games, Allen basically has it locked up (btw their last 3 are Jets and Patriots x2).
 

RavensMania

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Administrator
It’s also because the MVP comes from the top 2 seeds. So unless the Bills actually start losing games, Allen basically has it locked up (btw their last 3 are Jets and Patriots x2).
You've tried to harp on this and just because it's happened that way, doesn't mean it has to happen that way so stop harping on the issue. It's not in the rule book.
 

JAAM

Hall of Famer
It’s also because the MVP comes from the top 2 seeds. So unless the Bills actually start losing games, Allen basically has it locked up (btw their last 3 are Jets and Patriots x2).
Divisional games can be wonky though, as we would know
 

UPennChem

Hall of Famer
Its funny how everyone cares about different things. I couldn't possibly care what anyone in the media says about anything. I find it truly irrelevant. I don't care if Lamar wins MVPs. It's all meaningless to me.

I care about tremendously about the product on the field and the behind the scenes that leads to it. I don't even care about playoff wins. With this kinda team either you're winning a SB or you failed. That's the only thing that matters to me.

I know others here have said just watching regular season games is fun and that's what they are about. Everyone feels what they feel and to each their own.
 
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