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Lamar Jackson

BoredMarine13 said:
I’m curious why you can’t imagine the issue being a pay gap? Steve already said the Watson deal was BS and Lamar is well within his right based off his play to request more than Watson.

People keep saying we know Lamar is going to get paid and that’s true , but they have no idea how much. For some reason fans think Lamar will be reasonable , but why should he? He is better than Watson and if the Ravens don’t give him 230-250 guaranteed he knows someone else will after a franchise tag or two.
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Back from a week in Tennessee. Half of Nashville didn't even know there was a pre-season game on Thursday. It was on TV and I heard people asking, "Wait, is that the repeat of the Playoff game?" lol But they liked my Oriole hat that I wore with devotion thru-out the trip and even noted how they were doing this year.

There were a lot of articles on the Ravens this week on my FB feed. The one today was that the Ravens only have until the beginning of the season to finalize a deal. I think they need to get this done. Maybe they're waiting for a news cycle or timing to do it and know what it will take to get Lamar's signature, but he's just gonna be still more expensive next year if he has a better than decent year. Pay the man already. Give him his moment in the Sun with the highest paid player bullshit and get it over with. Otherwise, he gets too expensive and we end up having to trade him on a Franchise Tag. Pay the bulk of it ASAP and just do it already. He doesn't strike me as the kind of person who would complain and hold out if someone overshoots him in a year or two with a bigger contract, so just sign the guy and move on OR be prepared just to move on.
 
The holdup is 100% the guaranteed money and how much of it. You can fluff a contracts AAV easily. We’re talking real cash here. Lamar is likely asking for fully guaranteed or a significant portion. The Ravens are smart not to give into that but they know they’re going to need to pony up. We know deadlines spur action too so hopefully something comes up here in the next couple of weeks.
 
drjohnnyfever said:
Pay the man already. Give him his moment in the Sun with the highest paid player bullshit and get it over with. Otherwise, he gets too expensive and we end up having to trade him on a Franchise Tag. Pay the bulk of it ASAP and just do it already.
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We know he is getting paid but I think the hold up is the fully guaranteed contract he wants and steve not wanting to put all that money in escrow. That’s a sizeable chunk of change , even for a billionaire, just sitting there that he can’t use
 
BoredMarine13 said:
We know he is getting paid but I think the hold up is the fully guaranteed contract he wants and steve not wanting to put all that money in escrow. That’s a sizeable chunk of change , even for a billionaire, just sitting there that he can’t use
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I don’t think it’s anything about the actual money. It’s about protecting the team. We have plenty of money to give Lamar but that doesn’t means it’s the smartest business move.
 
BoredMarine13 said:
We know he is getting paid but I think the hold up is the fully guaranteed contract he wants and steve not wanting to put all that money in escrow. That’s a sizeable chunk of change , even for a billionaire, just sitting there that he can’t use
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Inflation is real. ...maybe not to the super rich in the same way, but I get it. I'm just saying, and I think you agree, they know the number and it just needs to happen.
 
Simba said:
The holdup is 100% the guaranteed money and how much of it. You can fluff a contracts AAV easily. We’re talking real cash here. Lamar is likely asking for fully guaranteed or a significant portion. The Ravens are smart not to give into that but they know they’re going to need to pony up. We know deadlines spur action too so hopefully something comes up here in the next couple of weeks.
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definitely agree on this - i dont think lamar's redline is going to move on the guaranteed money front either
maybe it wont need to be fully guaranteed but there's going to be a number and it's going to be north of 200m guaranteed methinks if it's a 5 year deal
 
rossihunter2 said:
definitely agree on this - i dont think lamar's redline is going to move on the guaranteed money front either
maybe it wont need to be fully guaranteed but there's going to be a number and it's going to be north of 200m guaranteed methinks if it's a 5 year deal
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Exactly. It’s a lot of guaranteed money regardless. Would be real curious to hear how far off they are right now but of course we’ll never get that info. But there’s an opportunity for this to get done, but both sides are going to have to budge a little.
 
Simba said:
The holdup is 100% the guaranteed money and how much of it. You can fluff a contracts AAV easily. We’re talking real cash here. Lamar is likely asking for fully guaranteed or a significant portion. The Ravens are smart not to give into that but they know they’re going to need to pony up. We know deadlines spur action too so hopefully something comes up here in the next couple of weeks.
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So, what do we do if he wants more guaranteed money than Watson and Steve won't sign off on it?

Plays this season and wins a SB, plays next one on tag and leaves? Would Steve be content with that outcome?
 
allblackraven said:
So, what do we do if he wants more guaranteed money than Watson and Steve won't sign off on it?

Plays this season and wins a SB, plays next one on tag and leaves? Would Steve be content with that outcome?
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I don't think Steve is signing off or not signing off. Of course he doesn't want a fully guaranteed deal out there, but business is business and if the people that he hired to make these deals agree to it, Steve isn't blocking anything.
 
Simba said:
I don't think Steve is signing off or not signing off. Of course he doesn't want a fully guaranteed deal out there, but business is business and if the people that he hired to make these deals agree to it, Steve isn't blocking anything.
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I don't know. At these numbers....
 
BoredMarine13 said:
We know he is getting paid but I think the hold up is the fully guaranteed contract he wants and steve not wanting to put all that money in escrow. That’s a sizeable chunk of change , even for a billionaire, just sitting there that he can’t use
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Well, sadly if one owner finds it as the cost of doing business, the other owners have little choice but to follow suit or lose great players. Believe me, I understand the Ravens' POV, but it doesn't really matter from a player's perspective. If Watson got that money (however idiotic the Browns owner may be), the precedent is established. Either Steve pays up or risks losing perhaps the best offensive weapon this league has seen. He needs to come up with the cash to put in escrow if he wants to run his business like other owners. I'm hoping it gets resolved because Lamar isn't a man that kids. He doesn't complain, but will readily test the market if he is forced to do so.
 
allblackraven said:
So, what do we do if he wants more guaranteed money than Watson and Steve won't sign off on it?

Plays this season and wins a SB, plays next one on tag and leaves? Would Steve be content with that outcome?
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Ellicottraven said:
Well, sadly if one owner finds it as the cost of doing business, the other owners have little choice but to follow suit or lose great players. Believe me, I understand the Ravens' POV, but it doesn't really matter from a player's perspective. If Watson got that money (however idiotic the Browns owner may be), the precedent is established. Either Steve pays up or risks losing perhaps the best offensive weapon this league has seen. He needs to come up with the cash to put in escrow if he wants to run his business like other owners. I'm hoping it gets resolved because Lamar isn't a man that kids. He doesn't complain, but will readily test the market if he is forced to do so.
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He's never going to be cheaper than now unless he gets injured and that's not something anyone wants - and it might NOT hurt what he could get that much anyway.

If he does well his price goes up. If he does decently his price still goes up.

I don't know if I agree with what some have said about the Ravens being wiling to ride out two years with him under the franchise tag jut to have him. Maybe one year to attempt to get a contract done, but I have a feeling the club - given OBJunior and Hollywood, that they are just as willing to take a haul in draft capital by trading him if they feel the contract would dismantle or impact keeping more key players on the team.
 
BoredMarine13 said:
Well he’s laying quite a bit in the near future. Assuming they agreed on the contract Any fully guaranteed payments not made by March 31 must be placed in escrow, up to 75 percent of the total contract. That’s a significant chunk of change when your talking 230 mil +
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I've looked into this recently, but not because of Steve B. I was trying to figure out how Mike Brown was going to pay Burrow.
 
allblackraven said:
So, what do we do if he wants more guaranteed money than Watson and Steve won't sign off on it?

Plays this season and wins a SB, plays next one on tag and leaves? Would Steve be content with that outcome?
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i just dont think there's any reason why he wouldnt sign off on this - i get that its a lot of money but he's going to have to pay lamar that money even if it's not guaranteed anyway

if Steve was going to not sign off on this stuff against the wishes/designs of EDC/Pat Moriarty and the front office and coaching staff i think we'd already know that from leaks
 
drjohnnyfever said:
He's never going to be cheaper than now unless he gets injured and that's not something anyone wants - and it might NOT hurt what he could get that much anyway.

If he does well his price goes up. If he does decently his price still goes up.

I don't know if I agree with what some have said about the Ravens being wiling to ride out two years with him under the franchise tag jut to have him. Maybe one year to attempt to get a contract done, but I have a feeling the club - given OBJunior and Hollywood, that they are just as willing to take a haul in draft capital by trading him if they feel the contract would dismantle or impact keeping more key players on the team.
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no point having key players instead of a franchise altering MVP QB...
we will not be able to compete in the AFC without an elite QB - we have one now... we're not going to be letting him go
and it's in our interest to pay him before Burrow and Herbert become eligible for extensions in 2023
 
RavensMania said:
I've looked into this recently, but not because of Steve B. I was trying to figure out how Mike Brown was going to pay Burrow.
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that's going to be much more difficult for them because he's not a rich guy in nfl owner terms - in fact im pretty sure he's up there (or should i say down there) with mark davis as one of the "poorest" owners in the NFL...

we shouldnt be having the same cash issues with Bisciotti who is among the richest owners in the league
 
rossihunter2 said:
that's going to be much more difficult for them because he's not a rich guy in nfl owner terms - in fact im pretty sure he's up there (or should i say down there) with mark davis as one of the "poorest" owners in the NFL...

we shouldnt be having the same cash issues with Bisciotti who is among the richest owners in the league
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Steve B net worth is 6b vs, Mike Browns 2b and yes Brown is among the poorest owners in football.
 
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