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Lamar Jackson

UPennChem said:
Now we're getting the actual reverse reports on Lamar. Now Rapsheet is saying Lamar himself is telling people he will play this week, but people inside the organization are not so sure. And his implication was that those people can see that he's not a fully healthy Lamar Jackson
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If he not atleast 90% he shouldnt play imo.
 
Deebo813 said:
Yea but with lamar running ability we need him atleast 90 with little risk of getting hurt again. despite what us critics, who dnt wanna understand may say… he gotta do whats best for him, cause if he goes out there and hurt himself even more, shit gonna get real
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just think RG3. He came back too soon after injuring his LLC and ended up getting hurt again in the playoffs.

No one wants this to happen to Lamar.
 
Deebo813 said:
Yea but with lamar running ability we need him atleast 90 with little risk of getting hurt again. despite what us critics, who dnt wanna understand may say… he gotta do whats best for him, cause if he goes out there and hurt himself even more, shit gonna get real
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I mean Lamar as a statue in the pocket is still better than both our backups lol
 


Came across this, the bit about his conversation with another player that suffered a pcl sprain was interesting to me. I think it explains the duration of Lamar’s absence, sounds like a nagging injury
 
You need your superstar to be available. Back to back years as a no show late in the year. At some point that has to matter when discussing his long term future
 
Sucks to hear this but hopefully everyone gives it a rest on their “he doesn’t want to play here anymore” hot takes. If only we could be so lucky
 
I think Lamar really hurt his value.

He's proven that he can't be trusted long term. And before anyone comes at me, it only took 2 injuries back to back for people to say the same thing about Bateman.

Both times Lamar's been knocked out they've been on routine QB hits and that's actually a bad thing. Additionally, both came in about exactly the same time in the season too.

Let's consider some of the relevant factors. Lamar tried to bulk up to be durable over the course of the season. Although he told the media that he wanted to do it, Rapsheet told McAfee the Ravens told him to do it. Even with the added muscle, Lamar has shown his body can't take an entire season of NFL punishment.

Every year he's played, he's had issues with either nagging injuries truly up and down his whole body simultaneously and always has a real problem with getting sick.

With respect to the two injuries that have knocked him out, he's shown an inability to heal on the expected time lines. This one is really strange. I saw Cappa from the Bengals leg get literally snapped in half under the weight of Urban and get carted off. Nonetheless, no boot, cast, or whatever and dude is trying to play this week. Lamar is legitimately still hurt and that's the problem.

If there was one thing that could derail Lamar Jackson's career, it would be the accumulation of injuries. So far he's been fortunate to avoid major surgeries, but he's missed a lot of football. And I don't really see how anyone can be confident he won't miss a lot more. The hits that have taken him out have been neither big or freaky. Those shots WILL happen every year it's unavoidable.

All that being said, availability is huge. It's actually the number one most important thing. Lamar is ultra talented and deserves a big contract unambiguously. That being said, he's not earned the right to a fully guaranteed big contract. There's just no way. He has neither the playoff success nor the regular season durability to warrant it.

Lamar you took a risk. You proved that we're nothing without you and you're worth a lot of value. You also failed to stay healthy again have not been helped your playoff legacy because of it.

Get your head out of your ass and sign the deal your worth without the full guarantees. Your selfishness in this issue affects many beyond yourself.
 
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UPennChem said:
I think Lamar really hurt his value.

He's proven that he can't be trusted long term. And before anyone comes at me, it only took 2 injuries back to back for people to say the same thing about Bateman.

Both times Lamar's been knocked out they've been on routine QB hits and that's actually a bad thing. Additionally, both came in about exactly the same time in the season too.

Let's consider some of the relevant factors. Lamar tried to bulk up to be durable over the course of the season. Although he told the media that he wanted to do it, Rapsheet told McAfee the Ravens told him to do it. Even with the added muscle, Lamar has shown his body can't take an entire season of NFL punishment.

Every year he's played, he's had issues with either nagging injuries truly up and down his whole body simultaneously and always has a real problem with getting sick.

With respect to the two injuries that have knocked him out, he's shown an inability to heal on the expected time lines. This one is really strange. I saw Cappa from the Bengals leg get literally snapped in half under the weight of Urban and get carted off. Nonetheless, no boot, cast, or whatever and dude is trying to play this week. Lamar is legitimately still hurt and that's the problem.

If there was one thing that could derail Lamar Jackson's career, it would be the accumulation of injuries. So far he's been fortunate to avoid major surgeries, but he's missed a lot of football. And I don't really see how anyone can be confident he won't miss a lot more. The hits that have taken him out have been neither big or freaky. Those shots WILL happen every year it's unavoidable.

All that being said, availability is huge. It's actually the number one most important thing. Lamar is ultra talented and deserves a big contract unambiguously. That being said, he's not earned the right to a fully guaranteed big contract. There's just no way. He has neither the playoff success nor the regular season durability to warrant it.

Lamar you took a risk. You proved that we're nothing without you and you're worth a lot of value. You also failed to stay healthy again have not been helped your playoff legacy because of it.

Get your head out of your ass and sign the deal your worth without the full guarantees. Your selfishness in this issue affects many beyond yourself.
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About half of Roquan's money is fully guaranteed. Does Lamar really think we are going to give him 100 % fully guaranteed money!!???

After all his injuries and illnesses ? Not a chance. Maybe there is some NFL sucker team out there that will do it like the Brownies but it wont be the Ravens organization.
 
ravenslord said:
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About half of Roquan's money is fully guaranteed. Does Lamar really think we are going to give him 100 % fully guaranteed money!!???

After all his injuries and illnesses ? Not a chance. Maybe there is some NFL sucker team out there that will do it like the Brownies but it wont be the Ravens organization.
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just because the media is saying Lamar is asking for a fully guaranteed contract, doesn't mean he really is asking for one.

It's time for everyone to stop believing what the media says is fact.
 
ravenslord said:
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About half of Roquan's money is fully guaranteed. Does Lamar really think we are going to give him 100 % fully guaranteed money!!???

After all his injuries and illnesses ? Not a chance. Maybe there is some NFL sucker team out there that will do it like the Brownies but it wont be the Ravens organization.
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Lamar is worth a big contract. Lamar is not worth a big and fully guaranteed contract. If Lamar cannot come to terms with this, I'm fairly certain the Ravens will trade him before giving him that contract.
 
RavensMania said:
just because the media is saying Lamar is asking for a fully guaranteed contract, doesn't mean he really is asking for one.

It's time for everyone to stop believing what the media says is fact.
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Agreed in principle on your sentiment. However the situation does not change. If the hold up wasn't guarantees but rather AAV or something else or blah. Then who cares. Whatever that hold up is, which clearly exists, is the thing Lamar needs to conceed. Or the Ravens do. But something had to give
 
RavensMania said:
just because the media is saying Lamar is asking for a fully guaranteed contract, doesn't mean he really is asking for one.

It's time for everyone to stop believing what the media says is fact.
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UPennChem said:
Lamar is worth a big contract. Lamar is not worth a big and fully guaranteed contract. If Lamar cannot come to terms with this, I'm fairly certain the Ravens will trade him before giving him that contract.
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Would love to know if they offered him the Josh Allen deal. That is his comp IMO.
 
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