Lamar Jackson

[OURavensFan]

The irony behind burrow not being in a mvp conversation, is that it’s for the same reason Lamar lost mvp to Allen last year, burrow can’t win mvp because chase and Higgins, Lamar couldn’t win it because of Henry.

But only one of those 2 qbs were the mvp runner-up in 2024, despite the supporting cast narrative

Both Lamar and Allen can carry mediocre weapons, really have never had to see Burrow do it. And I think if he did have to you’d see why he’s a tier below

 

[Deebo813]

Both Lamar and Allen can carry mediocre weapons, really have never had to see Burrow do it. And I think if he did have to you’d see why he’s a tier below

Regardless of what we say, lamar nor allen are better passers than joe nor would they be able to use chase and higgins like how he does.

 

[OURavensFan]

Regardless of what we say, lamar nor allen are better passers than joe nor would they be able to use chase and higgins like how he does.

I guess we’ll never know, I’d love to see Burrow win MVP with Seth Roberts and rookie Hollywood as his 1&2. Did people say this about Daunte Caulpepper with Randy Moss and Chris Carter? Flacco would have destroyed with Chase and Higgins, Jake Browning won more games than Burrow did 2 years ago with those 2.

Lamar just threw 41 TDs and 4 INTs without Chase and Higgins, plus all the better efficiency numbers. On 70 less attempts

 

[Tank]

Good read.

Lamar Jackson taking different approach: ‘I’m not really trying to think about the Super Bowl yet’​

Giana Han
7/23/2025 6:30 p.m. EDTchat_bubble
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Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson passed for 4,172 yards and ran for 915 in 2024. (Ulysses Muñoz/The Baltimore Banner)

When Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson was 25, he came into camp heavier. When he was 27, he came in lighter. Now, at 28, Jackson said he’s arriving at training camp wiser.
As he heads into his eighth season, Jackson isn’t preoccupied with shaping himself in any particular way. Instead, he’s focused on “everything.”

“I’m really just getting started for real.”
Lamar Jackson

Everything except the one thing that’s been his main focus for years — the Super Bowl.
That’s not to say Jackson doesn’t want to win a Super Bowl. His desire for that ring has not changed since the day he was drafted. But he’s taking a different approach this year.
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“To be honest, I’m really not trying to think that far,” Jackson said. “Because every time we have those discussions, man, we get to playoffs, but we don’t punch in. We don’t finish. So I’m pretty much just trying to finish camp the correct way and then get ready for the Bills. I’m not really trying to think about the Super Bowl yet.”
Instead, he’s evaluating how he can be better in every way. He went back through last year’s games, looking at every mistake, and concluded that he did “aight” last season.

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Jackson made history in 2024 after passing for more than 4,000 yards and rushing for more than 900 yards in the regular season. He finished second in MVP voting despite leading Buffalo Bills quarterback Josh Allen in almost every statistical category.
Jackson says he doesn’t care about being the MVP. But he does care about being the best. And he says there’s more to come despite making history last year.
“I’m only 28,” Jackson said. “I’m really just getting started for real.”
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Tight end Mark Andrews, one of Jackson’s favorite targets over the years, joked that he expects Jackson to hit his peak in 10 years. In all seriousness, coach John Harbaugh said there’s room for Jackson to grow, even if it’s hard to picture what that will look like.

Lamar Jackson is 28 as he begins his eighth season in the NFL. (Ulysses Muñoz/The Baltimore Banner)
“Lamar’s young,” Harbaugh said. “I mean, he’s in his eighth year, yet he’s only 28 years old. I think that’s pretty rare. So his window to improve is really big.”
Harbaugh said one of the main reasons he has faith in Jackson is that he never settles and always strives to improve. He has broken down his own game — he pointed to the four interceptions he threw in the regular season and said he wants to hold on to the ball better — as well as the entire offense’s game.
He mentioned to wide receiver Zay Flowers over the offseason that he wants to have more meetings with his teammates to improve chemistry.
Now that Jackson is back out on the field for training camp, he said he’s been trying different passes and looks — even if it means going rogue from offensive coordinator Todd Monken’s calls.
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“Coach Monk probably get on me a little bit because he be wanting me to throw the ball certain places, but I’m like, sometimes in the game, it might not happen the way it is in practice,” Jackson said. “So I pretty much just try to hit passes that I normally might not get in the game, looks that I might not get in the game, and I try everything.”

Jackson speaks with quarterbacks coach Tee Martin during training camp practice Wednesday in Owings Mills. (Ulysses Muñoz/The Baltimore Banner)

The quarterback said he wants to try new things during training camp. (Ulysses Muñoz/The Baltimore Banner)
Even if he doesn’t always listen, Jackson said, he pretty much knows what Monken’s thinking now that they’re heading into their third year together. That added chemistry is another reason Jackson could improve on an already historic career.
Between his own growth and that of the guys around him, Jackson expects big things, even if he’s trying to stay focused on the now.

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“I say that every year, though,” Jackson said. “But yeah, I mean, we’ve got a great group of guys. Great wide receiving corps, great running backs, great tight ends, a great offensive line. We’ve got the same guys back. Probably one guy missing out the O-line. Defense looking incredible, as always. We’re looking great on paper, like I said. But we’re going to see when the time comes.”

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[Deebo813]

I guess we’ll never know, I’d love to see Burrow win MVP with Seth Roberts and rookie Hollywood as his 1&2. Did people say this about Daunte Caulpepper with Randy Moss and Chris Carter? Flacco would have destroyed with Chase and Higgins, Jake Browning won more games than Burrow did 2 years ago with those 2.

Lamar just threw 41 TDs and 4 INTs without Chase and Higgins, plus all the better efficiency numbers. On 70 less attempts

Borruw doesnt have the legs like allen and lamar does. You think if he loses chase and higgins he would magically lose the ability to throw an accurate ball? Or lose throw power or the ability to read a defense? We acting like he would age 10yrs and just lose his ability to play qb! This isnt a jalen hurts situation, we as a ravens fans know borruw is the man. We gotta stop hating lol

 

[allblackraven]

Borruw doesnt have the legs like allen and lamar does. You think if he loses chase and higgins he would magically lose the ability to throw an accurate ball? Or lose throw power or the ability to read a defense? We acting like he would age 10yrs and just lose his ability to play qb! This isnt a jalen hurts situation, we as a ravens fans know borruw is the man. We gotta stop hating lol

Fuck Burrow

 

[Deebo813]

Fuck Burrow

Its fuck em for sure but cant deny he a baller

 

[Tank]

Its fuck em for sure but cant deny he a baller

We beat the shit out of the dude and he kept getting up and didn't flinch. And no one can deny he is a talented passer of the football. Gotta respect him no matter what team he plays for.

 

[OURavensFan]

Borruw doesnt have the legs like allen and lamar does. You think if he loses chase and higgins he would magically lose the ability to throw an accurate ball? Or lose throw power or the ability to read a defense? We acting like he would age 10yrs and just lose his ability to play qb! This isnt a jalen hurts situation, we as a ravens fans know borruw is the man. We gotta stop hating lol

I’ve always said he’s top 4, but I think he wouldn’t produce at the same level and needs more talent than the other 2 do around him. I’ve seen Higgins and Chase make plays no Ravens WR ever makes so many times, I’ve seen every game Lamar and Burrow have played.

I’d honestly be curious to see Burrow in an offense that is more balanced and has him under center more, but that won’t happen until the surrounding cast changes.

 

[JoeyFlex5]

Borruw doesnt have the legs like allen and lamar does. You think if he loses chase and higgins he would magically lose the ability to throw an accurate ball? Or lose throw power or the ability to read a defense? We acting like he would age 10yrs and just lose his ability to play qb! This isnt a jalen hurts situation, we as a ravens fans know borruw is the man. We gotta stop hating lol

Burrow wouldn’t suddenly become a shit qb, this is true, but with their passing volume, his job would become substantially harder, a solid chunk of the completions he throws now would be incomplete or picked off, the slants that turn into 2 broken tackles and a TD would end up just a short slant.

 

[OURavensFan]

Burrow wouldn’t suddenly become a shit qb, this is true, but with their passing volume, his job would become substantially harder, a solid chunk of the completions he throws now would be incomplete or picked off, the slants that turn into 2 broken tackles and a TD would end up just a short slant.

Exactly, I’m convinced a lot of people don’t see the full games where he has 400 yards and 300 of them are YAC

 

[gtalk12]

Borruw doesnt have the legs like allen and lamar does. You think if he loses chase and higgins he would magically lose the ability to throw an accurate ball? Or lose throw power or the ability to read a defense? We acting like he would age 10yrs and just lose his ability to play qb! This isnt a jalen hurts situation, we as a ravens fans know borruw is the man. We gotta stop hating lol

I don't think it's hate to say that he would probably not do as well without the best duo in football.

One guy is a ball winner and the other guy is a YAC machine.

 

[Deebo813]

Burrow wouldn’t suddenly become a shit qb, this is true, but with their passing volume, his job would become substantially harder, a solid chunk of the completions he throws now would be incomplete or picked off, the slants that turn into 2 broken tackles and a TD would end up just a short slant.

Those outs to higgins are so well placed i dnt think many qbs can consistently make those throws he does. Tbh he probably the most accurate in nfl outside of arod.

 

[Deebo813]

I don't think it's hate to say that he would probably not do as well without the best duo in football.

One guy is a ball winner and the other guy is a YAC machine.

and the one who is throwing to them is likely the most accurate in thr nfl..

 

[Deebo813]

I don't think it's hate to say that he would probably not do as well without the best duo in football.

One guy is a ball winner and the other guy is a YAC machine.

I think we look more at the stat lines than the actual qb game play it self in these scenarios. If borrow had trash weapons, youd still be able to tell that with a good core, he would be dangerous. Its not like he out there looking like jamies winston or anthony richardson

 

[gtalk12]

and the one who is throwing to them is likely the most accurate in thr nfl..

I've seen one too many incredibly made catches made by the both of those guys to say it's Burrow.

Not a dig to Burrow, but those two deserve credit too and it shows with what they got paid

 

[Deebo813]

I've seen one too many incredibly made catches made by the both of those guys to say it's Burrow.

Not a dig to Burrow, but those two deserve credit too and it shows with what they got paid

Yea ofcourse but it goes hand and hand. Idk how we can discredit borruw or even attempt to do so. I dnt think im watching the same burrow as others. Are we mad cause he passing for 4500 yards or something? Take away them two, give him our weapons and invest in their defense, he wins the SB. Idc if he only passing for 3800 yards, you would still be able to tell that borruw is a dawg is all im saying

 

[OURavensFan]

Yea ofcourse but it goes hand and hand. Idk how we can discredit borruw or even attempt to do so. I dnt think im watching the same burrow as others. Are we mad cause he passing for 4500 yards or something? Take away them two, give him our weapons and invest in their defense, he wins the SB. Idc if he only passing for 3800 yards, you would still be able to tell that borruw is a dawg is all im saying

See this is where I think you take it too far lol

 

[Deebo813]

See this is where I think you take it too far lol

Lmao yea i probably did but im just saying burrow is a great qb though

 

[gtalk12]

Yea ofcourse but it goes hand and hand. Idk how we can discredit borruw or even attempt to do so. I dnt think im watching the same burrow as others. Are we mad cause he passing for 4500 yards or something? Take away them two, give him our weapons and invest in their defense, he wins the SB. Idc if he only passing for 3800 yards, you would still be able to tell that borruw is a dawg is all im saying

his defense actually created turnovers in the playoffs.