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The 2023 Offseason Thread

rmcjacket23 said:
Honestly not even sure why they're playing the game with him. He's like the easiest franchise tag candidate I've ever seen. $31M is below market value, but reasonable enough, and you get a whole new year to evaluate before committing long term.

If you can get him on the Geno/Carr deal, sure. If he holds out for more, FT him, and let him play it out on that.
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Can't they just tag him and continue working on negotiating an extension? If so, I'm a bit surprised that the "Daniel Jones has been tagged" notification hasn't hit yet.
 
Dom McRaven said:
Can't they just tag him and continue working on negotiating an extension? If so, I'm a bit surprised that the "Daniel Jones has been tagged" notification hasn't hit yet.
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Giants want a deal done with Jones so they can tag Barkley. If they tag Jones, Barkley hits FA and possibly walks.

Only way to keep both is to sign one to an extension. Barkley has no reason to sign an extension at this point, so they focus on Jones.
 
Only getting two firsts for Lamar seems like robbery. We need to put the exclusive tag on him and ask for what the Texans got for Watson. Everyone points to his contract but also need to look at what Houston got for him, that's what we should get for Lamar.
 
 
BoredMarine13 said:
Gus, Edwards, Duv, and Campbell should all be gone. Time for the next crop to step up
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They'll probably wait as late as possible to see what's happening with the QB before doing anything. They may have to make big moves.

I wouldn't mind seeing the Ravens push some money into the future for once - the cap's expected to take some big jumps shortly - and spending future money is like an interest free loan which also means the players you sign now are relatively cheaper as a % of the cap by the time you pay for them.

For the next couple of years, the Ravens don't have to be as afraid of spending future cap as they've typically been. The scheduled rises from the current TV deal have got them covered.
 
So back to prediction making. What do we think happens going forward?

Do we think Lamar is signing a deal with us or someone else on Monday? Will this take days?

Will FA anxiously await the Lamar domino before any other big name people are signed?
 
The rest of the NFL seem to be standing aside and letting the Ravens make a deal with Lamar, so it seems like that's going to happen. I love collusion.

If they are standing aside, it will probably only affect the Ravens Free Agency and everything else will go ahead as normal.
 
QtR Nevermore said:
They'll probably wait as late as possible to see what's happening with the QB before doing anything. They may have to make big moves.

I wouldn't mind seeing the Ravens push some money into the future for once - the cap's expected to take some big jumps shortly - and spending future money is like an interest free loan which also means the players you sign now are relatively cheaper as a % of the cap by the time you pay for them.

For the next couple of years, the Ravens don't have to be as afraid of spending future cap as they've typically been. The scheduled rises from the current TV deal have got them covered.
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They're not afraid to backload contracts. Did plenty of that last year and in years prior.
Its just the void years they're diametrically opposed to. I think they should start using them sporadically, but doesn't appear they will.

I think in the next 5 days they need to:
a) figure out what they're doing with Zeitler and Campbell. Need to either extend or release.
b) decide who they're cutting. My guess is Clark, Edwards and Duvernay are gone. That's $12M in cap space. I think Ricard may be on the block too, and wouldn't be surprised if they move off of Pierce either.

My gut says that they're going to cut Campbell and let him test the market, along with the other three. That gets you ~$10M in cap space for FA, plus whatever you do with Zeitler. Call it $12M.

They'll need $15M more later in the offseason, which is where the restructures will need to be done. Stanley, Marlon and Andrews for sure, and possibly a few others as needed.

Of course if you get a Lamar extension, it'll create space too. Maybe $5-10M. Brian has $10-20M estimate in his structure, but $20M seems aggressive to me. I think his year 1 cap hit on a 4+ year deal should be in the $25M range.
 
QtR Nevermore said:
The rest of the NFL seem to be standing aside and letting the Ravens make a deal with Lamar, so it seems like that's going to happen. I love collusion.

If they are standing aside, it will probably only affect the Ravens Free Agency and everything else will go ahead as normal.
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The rest are standing aside because they know Baltimore is just using them to negotiate for us. If it's anywhere close to market value the Ravens will just match it. For other teams they'd just be wasting their time trying to negotiate a deal. Literally the only way the Ravens don't match is if someone will do the Watson deal and give two first round picks.
 
Simba said:
New coach coming with good reviews. Sounds a lot like Dubb, who has primarily been working as a personal coach.

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Great. Did we even have a designated OLB coach last year or was it Zach Orr doing it all?
Why is Urban still listed on our website? Will he take over the passing game coordinator job?
 
cdp said:
Great. Did we even have a designated OLB coach last year or was it Zach Orr doing it all?
Why is Urban still listed on our website? Will he take over the passing game coordinator job?
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We had Rob Leonard who departed for Vegas I believe
 
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cdp said:
Great. Did we even have a designated OLB coach last year or was it Zach Orr doing it all?
Why is Urban still listed on our website? Will he take over the passing game coordinator job?
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Unless Urban gets a job else where it seems like The Ravens would like to keep him. Not sure what role that would be though but Harbaugh seem to hint that he would like for Urban to stay.
 
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