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The Defence, the Offence and the Coaching
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JoeyFlex5
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Defensive mvp is madubuike but as far as the guy that’s most “key” in making it all work consistently, it’s either Hamilton or Ro, and I’m leaning very hard towards Hamilton, he has taken away so many key reads on so many key plays, it’s like you just can’t fuck with him don’t even bother. He’s like what I expected to see out of jalen Ramsey had he stayed at safety in the nfl, like if that dude had some bam bam kam in him.
how can you pick one defensive MVP. Only way is to give it to Macdonald.
rmcjacket23
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Not going to lie... I've been victory lapping for two years on this one. Not because I thought he'd be as good as he is, but mostly because I remember distinctly being one of the lone advocates for the fact that IF he fell to our lap on draft day, Eric wouldn't pass on him. Pretty much everybody else was aligned with the fact that because we had Clark and just signed Williams, there was no way we take him even if he's available.
Naturally nobody thought he would fall that far, but I believe we literally had our choice of 2-3 of these more prevalent "mocked" guys at the time it was our pick, and I believe Eric basically jizzed all over himself when he realized Hamilton was still there. Believe he said that they did very little pre-draft work on him, because they thought he was a consensus top 8-10 pick.
Think I even gave you your flowers on that one if I remember correctly. I always had him highly rated on my personal board but doubted we'd pick him after passing on Derwin a few years prior. Couldn't be more happy to have been wrong on that one. Always hard separating personal beliefs and what I think the team would do.
are you kidding me. He was my top player in the draft. No way did I want to pass on him if he slid to us.
Eric did say that Derwin James would have been the pick if we hadn't traded down, out of 16, in 2018.
rmcjacket23
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so... for sure Rossi said we'd pass, because he I recall vividly. Simba liked him, but didn't think we'd take him. And Simba back and forthed it a bit, and said we should take Jermaine Johnson over Hamilton right at pick time. So he gets half credit. First post is the page where I proposed the scenario of one of the top 3 tackles being on the board or Hamilton.
2022 NFL Draft Gameday Thread
the thing i keep forgetting with karlaftis is that he's only 20 yrs old and as is often the case at this point in the year, he's back close to where he began the process on my board at EDGE 5/6 on my board (5 if we take out ojabo, 6 if we leave ojabo in there) I’ll die on the karlaftis hill...
purpleflock.com
2022 NFL Draft Gameday Thread
Texans got a 4th and 2 5ths? Wow to go back 2 spots? wow
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Props to JAAM, who was calling Hamilton all week.
Yep I liked Johnson a lot. Didn’t know the off field concerns at the time obviously. Always the hard thing about the draft when you get tape and reports only.so... for sure Rossi said we'd pass, because he I recall vividly. Simba liked him, but didn't think we'd take him. And Simba back and forthed it a bit, and said we should take Jermaine Johnson over Hamilton right at pick time. So he gets half credit. First post is the page where I proposed the scenario of one of the top 3 tackles being on the board or Hamilton.
2022 NFL Draft Gameday Thread
the thing i keep forgetting with karlaftis is that he's only 20 yrs old and as is often the case at this point in the year, he's back close to where he began the process on my board at EDGE 5/6 on my board (5 if we take out ojabo, 6 if we leave ojabo in there) I’ll die on the karlaftis hill...2022 NFL Draft Gameday Thread
Texans got a 4th and 2 5ths? Wow to go back 2 spots? wow
Props to JAAM, who was calling Hamilton all week.
so... for sure Rossi said we'd pass, because he I recall vividly. Simba liked him, but didn't think we'd take him. And Simba back and forthed it a bit, and said we should take Jermaine Johnson over Hamilton right at pick time. So he gets half credit. First post is the page where I proposed the scenario of one of the top 3 tackles being on the board or Hamilton.
2022 NFL Draft Gameday Thread
the thing i keep forgetting with karlaftis is that he's only 20 yrs old and as is often the case at this point in the year, he's back close to where he began the process on my board at EDGE 5/6 on my board (5 if we take out ojabo, 6 if we leave ojabo in there) I’ll die on the karlaftis hill...2022 NFL Draft Gameday Thread
Texans got a 4th and 2 5ths? Wow to go back 2 spots? wow
Props to JAAM, who was calling Hamilton all week.
yep i was wrong on that one lol
always gotta remember BPA - always kinda forget it in the moment haha
that was a wild few minutes though...
we picked hamilton and then somehow were back in the 1st round and then we found out hollywood was gone...
crazy draft
lots of fun
I was playing on my laptop at the time when I heard "and the Ravens have just traded..." and I don't think I've ever shut my laptop so quickly. Wanted 0 parts of the details being spoiled lol
I'm convinced Washington thought we were going to end up with Jordan Davis, so they traded down. They didn't envision Philly tradiing up for Davis and tbh, no way we take Davis with Hamilton available.
I do believe Hamilton would have been Washington's pick.
Willbacker
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Strong statement we wouldn't have taken Davis with Hamilton available. I know I would've been plenty pissed off but since he was gone I was good. When we was picking I was certain it was gonna be Hamilton.
Thezone27
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Boo hoo hoo for Washington. Have to say they really fucked up last year's pick. Emmanuel Forbes I had going late 2nd or 3rd, and Christian Gonzalez was there. So i don't think they would've taken Kyle Hamilton, they would've taken Rodney Thomas or someone
I heard some rumors that some teams were interested in him in the first round, so I thought he may be going at the end of the first. I certainly didn't think anyone would take him over Gonzalez.
Ellicottraven
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I was stunned when he was traded for a first round pick!
I liked Davis but I had Hamilton as my number 1 or 2 player throughout the entire process.
no question they screwed it up, but it was Washington.
Should have taken Christian Darisaw or JOK
Should have taken Hamilton
Should have taken Christian Gonzalez.
I can go on and on and on and on
when they make a good pick it's because they luck into it. ie McLauren
drjohnnyfever
Pro Bowler
I was not shocked by the Hollywood trade given his desire to leave and Lamar stating he understood, but I was a little surprised that we got a 1st rounder for him. I think that was a masterful job. I also think that the trade had some legs because the fact that we got Kyle, which seemed completely unlikely in the weeks leading up to the draft, I firmly believe both lead to the trade for Roquan. I think they realized they had a real quality DEF backfield in the making, but lacked a true MLB. They were getting killed for a couple seasons with intermediate receptions in the middle LB area and all we had were hybrid LB's that were poor at playing the middle.
I had figured we'd not have a chance at Kyle, but I had suggested either S or MLB for a couple drafts just because of that coverage weakness over the middle. The first few games with Kyle, before the trade for Roquan, our middle was a mess. That Miami game was a disaster because the Dolphins found that weak underbelly and exploited it using it to engage both their running and deeper passing game, at least that's how I saw it. Since that trade for Roquan, while we've seen meltdowns sometimes, the middle has been beyond solid.
Kyle's ability to come up into the middle and still have the range to get back, Roquan's ability to play the entire middle, and Roquan's understanding of how to position the other LB's has trasformed this DEF. It was an in-season rebuild that was masterfully orchestrated by EDC. The fact that we got Roquan for a 2nd and 5th rounder and that the team sat tight while we, Philly and Washington played musical chairs is just astounding to me.
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