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Been stuck in bed with COVID for most of the past week so ya been kinda away.

On topic, if a CB is giving up 50% completion that is an elite coverage number. If you looked at a QB and he went 19-38 for 236 yards and 1 TD you would think that QB did not play well. You are trying to argue those suggest the defender did not play well. If Stroud has that statline the Ravens are winning by 4TDs. That is what he would have averaged throwing at Humphrey, who is often on the best guy.

I do not know what you would define as great but I am also not sure if there is a CB or defender in the league who could reach that standard and the argument is there are great CBs in the NFL, that probably suggests the standard is too high.
This is all numbers over watching. BSteve has had a far superior season than Marlon and the numbers would tell you otherwise.

Same reason Lamar is gonna win an MVP without gawdy numbers.

Also, hope you're feeling better!!!! Covid sucks
 
Im not a Harbs fan as I think his act has gone stale while riding Lamar’s coat tails , but that man is not a playoff choker. Did you forget the 08-12 timeframe?
Not a playoff choker, but If he loses to another less talented team in the playoff might be time to pack it up
 
Anyone think this is a sign of how confident we are in Dalvin? it must mean he’s been looking good in practice?
I mean I don't think there was ever a single question that this would be what would happen once he signed. 0 trust in Melvin. Owen Wright is a quintessential JAG. Dalvin may not play much but he was clearly a better RB3 option than the other in house ones.
 
Bets for the weekend. Feeling comfortable with the below:
Ravens ML
49ers points
Bucs points
Bills ML
 
Revisionist history? Lamar is in which year now? WTH is the matter with you man? You know fully well, that Lamar wasn't available the past 2 years, and other than that, he was in the playoffs every year he was healthy. What is your point in bringing up future stats for Peyton when Lamar's story is unwritten? Also, he has a playoff record of 13-14.
But that's the point. He wasn't available. That's a fair criticism. He's earned that criticism. Inability to be on the football field during critical stages of a season is a bad thing, not a good thing.

He was in the playoffs every year he was healthy, and he's 1-3 in those games. The point in bringing up future stats for Peyton is being you ignorantly compared the two. You said Peyton didn't get criticism for not winning in the playoffs early. He did get criticism. Copious amounts of it. You're just pretending like he didn't.

And I referenced year 5 because that's when Peyton started breaking that narrative. When he made it to a AFCG. That's the same position Lamar is in now.

Estimating SBs isn't a real thing. Any idiot can do that. I can say I think Baker Mayfield will win multiple SBs, and I can't be proven wrong until he retires.
NFL is a "show me" league. He gets credit for winning in the playoffs when he actually fucking wins in the playoffs. I don't care about what he'll be doing 5-10 years from now when he's playing right now. I know what has been done, not will be done.

YOU compared him to Peyton. I explained to you, in detail, why that comparison sucked.
 
Let's not forget Lamar got us to playoffs with a 6-1 run in his rookie year, after practicing all preseason and season with a scout team, while Flacco was shitting the bed. He's had 2 full seasons (I'm writing off covid year for everybody) - unanimous MVP in one, will be close to unanimous MVP again.

And he'll win a Super Bowl in about a month time.
And I'm fine with the idea that people can evaluate QBs in the regular season. It's a bigger sample size, and you are correct that if a QB plays like shit, on average, for 17 weeks, there's a good chance he won't be in the playoffs anyway, so there's no point in discussing playoff record.

However, there's a LOT of QBs who can win enough regular season games to make the playoffs. A lot. Some of them do it and aren't even in the league a few years later.
So while MVPs are great accomplishments, leading your team to the playoffs is sort of the bare minimum for a franchise QB paid at this level, and one that allegedly has the "legacy" he does.
 
So while MVPs are great accomplishments, leading your team to the playoffs is sort of the bare minimum for a franchise QB paid at this level, and one that allegedly has the "legacy" he does
Who are your top 5 qbs? if its based off playoffs succees only , yes lamar is 1-3, his 1st playoff game didn't harbaugh admit to not opening the playbook til later in the game? '19 wasn't on him that was a team blunder and that's on the coach, only game that was on him was the bills who were on a hot streak
 
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If you ever have the chance... don't. 104 fever for 6 days, couldnt eat, could barely breath, and I am sure I had other symptoms but my mind has thankfully started repressing the past 10 days.
back in 2020 we lost 2 friends to covid. One was a neighbor and the other was a friends mother. We knew one person on a vent for 8 weeks and she survived but she's now living in an assisted living facility for the rest of her life and she's mid 50s. Another one was a friend of my wifes in Massachusettes on a vent for 4 weeks. Yeah, we don't take covid lightly . We have both had it once and luckily it wasn't bad.

Did you lose taste and smell or some people say everything they taste tastes like salt.
 
Who are your top 5 qbs? if its based off playoffs succees only , yes lamar is 1-3, his 1st playoff game didn't harbaugh admit to not opening the playbook til later in the game? '19 wasn't on him that was a team blunder and that's on the coach, only game that was on him was the bills who were on a hot streak
Playoff success matters in the context of how you compare in totality in historical context. If you want to be considered among the greatest QBs ever, you better have at least substantial postseason success. You don't need 3-4 rings to be in that group, but you need to have at least proven you can beat good teams, in the playoffs, over an extended period of time. People can talk about how he's got a short sample size, and right now, that's true. But when does it not become true? What's the arbitrary line of demarcation where a QB has enough playoff games on his resume that it becomes a critical part of his evaluation? 5 games? 10 games? I don't know the answer, and I promise nobody else will give that answer either. They'll just pick whatever number matches with the narrative they seek.

Who my top 5 QBs today are isn't relevant. Many of the QBs playing today have limited or no postseason success, so Lamar isn't alone in that regard. In the context of my all-time great QBs, its largely the same list everybody else has, and in no particular order. Brady, Montana, Manning, Marino, etc. I personally tend to lean more towards more modern QBs, because I quite frankly a lot of the QBs that played in the 60s, 70s, etc. just kind of sucked and would have a terrible time playing in an era like this one. But that's just personal opinion.

And remember... all of this is in the context of why its super critical to start racking up playoff wins now. There's no excuses for it not to happen. There's no "well Lamar wasn't playing" or "well we've got too many injuries". None of that is true. If we don't win on Saturday, it'll be because the players didn't play well enough to win. And I'd bet the QB would be involved in that conversation also.
 
Playoff success matters in the context of how you compare in totality in historical context. If you want to be considered among the greatest QBs ever, you better have at least substantial postseason success. You don't need 3-4 rings to be in that group, but you need to have at least proven you can beat good teams, in the playoffs, over an extended period of time. People can talk about how he's got a short sample size, and right now, that's true. But when does it not become true? What's the arbitrary line of demarcation where a QB has enough playoff games on his resume that it becomes a critical part of his evaluation? 5 games? 10 games? I don't know the answer, and I promise nobody else will give that answer either. They'll just pick whatever number matches with the narrative they seek.

Who my top 5 QBs today are isn't relevant. Many of the QBs playing today have limited or no postseason success, so Lamar isn't alone in that regard. In the context of my all-time great QBs, its largely the same list everybody else has, and in no particular order. Brady, Montana, Manning, Marino, etc. I personally tend to lean more towards more modern QBs, because I quite frankly a lot of the QBs that played in the 60s, 70s, etc. just kind of sucked and would have a terrible time playing in an era like this one. But that's just personal opinion.

And remember... all of this is in the context of why its super critical to start racking up playoff wins now. There's no excuses for it not to happen. There's no "well Lamar wasn't playing" or "well we've got too many injuries". None of that is true. If we don't win on Saturday, it'll be because the players didn't play well enough to win. And I'd bet the QB would be involved in that conversation also.
I'd agree with that list if you're talking super bowl era. Other than that there are other qbs that could be brought into the equation. Of course you do have an etc... I know you say you lean more towards the modern QB, but Sammy Baugh is one of the greatest players of all time. Think he deserves to be on any persons list.
 
Playoff success matters in the context of how you compare in totality in historical context. If you want to be considered among the greatest QBs ever, you better have at least substantial postseason success. You don't need 3-4 rings to be in that group, but you need to have at least proven you can beat good teams, in the playoffs, over an extended period of time. People can talk about how he's got a short sample size, and right now, that's true. But when does it not become true? What's the arbitrary line of demarcation where a QB has enough playoff games on his resume that it becomes a critical part of his evaluation? 5 games? 10 games? I don't know the answer, and I promise nobody else will give that answer either. They'll just pick whatever number matches with the narrative they seek.

Who my top 5 QBs today are isn't relevant. Many of the QBs playing today have limited or no postseason success, so Lamar isn't alone in that regard. In the context of my all-time great QBs, its largely the same list everybody else has, and in no particular order. Brady, Montana, Manning, Marino, etc. I personally tend to lean more towards more modern QBs, because I quite frankly a lot of the QBs that played in the 60s, 70s, etc. just kind of sucked and would have a terrible time playing in an era like this one. But that's just personal opinion.

And remember... all of this is in the context of why its super critical to start racking up playoff wins now. There's no excuses for it not to happen. There's no "well Lamar wasn't playing" or "well we've got too many injuries". None of that is true. If we don't win on Saturday, it'll be because the players didn't play well enough to win. And I'd bet the QB would be involved in that conversation also.

RMC, we disagree about a lot and have a long history of arguing things out, but I have to say that I am in total lockstep with everything you're saying here
 
Not sure Marlon Humphrey is going to play. Today is the last full practice before our game on Saturday. Marlon hasn't practiced in three weeks so I'm not expecting him to play. Most likely we will have Stephens on Collins with some safety help as well.
 
Not sure Marlon Humphrey is going to play. Today is the last full practice before our game on Saturday. Marlon hasn't practiced in three weeks so I'm not expecting him to play. Most likely we will have Stephens on Collins with some safety help as well.

No Humphrey after all that time is a downer but I'm looking at who's NOT on those injury reports and that's BOTH LOS. The Ravens hit 6th gear when the tackles finally got hot and healthy (with a little help from rotations). Are Stanley and Moses ready to go 4 quarters of high performance ball? What we saw in December suggests they can now and if those guys play up to their standards it's game over because the Texans will simply not score with us. The Texans are really, really beat up on that front 7 and they don't sport all that much depth in yr 1 of the rebuild.
 
No Humphrey after all that time is a downer but I'm looking at who's NOT on those injury reports and that's BOTH LOS. The Ravens hit 6th gear when the tackles finally got hot and healthy (with a little help from rotations). Are Stanley and Moses ready to go 4 quarters of high performance ball? What we saw in December suggests they can now and if those guys play up to their standards it's game over because the Texans will simply not score with us. The Texans are really, really beat up on that front 7 and they don't sport all that much depth in yr 1 of the rebuild.
I'm not sure we stop the rotation as we want to keep them as healthy as possible throughout this stretch. Moses is still dealing with a labrum tear, but the both have looked a bit better.
 
And remember... all of this is in the context of why its super critical to start racking up playoff wins now. There's no excuses for it not to happen. There's no "well Lamar wasn't playing" or "well we've got too many injuries". None of that is true. If we don't win on Saturday, it'll be because the players didn't play well enough to win. And I'd bet the QB would be involved in that conversation als
Oh I agree got to start racking playoff suceess at this point with 2 mvps it's no longer acceptable to have one playoff win, the 1-3 record would need context though I do agree he didn't play up to par in those games but the only game where he was the reason they lost was the bills game. He now has a modern offensive coordinator, I'm expecting different results
 
This is some bullshit, what is going on in the DMV. We gotta support the boys in Baltimore better than this … also love the Lions fans are enjoying a little bit of success and supporting their team. I’m almost rooting for them even though I bet against them. That insane prices lol, $675 to sit in the last row, you know the atmosphere in Detroit is going to rocking again


 
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