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The Refs, the OL, and the Coaching
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OURavensFan
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That was literally insane
Sandtown
MVP
1) Super bowl winning head coach
2) Has only had one of not two losing seasons in his coaching career
3) Able to have success with two first round quarterbacks in his career that was drastically different from each other
4) Able to develop/ established a coaching staff that not only led to positive development of two franchise quarterbacks but both quarterbacks got paid alot
5) Has been quite competitive and successful in a division that may be tougher than others
6) Time and time again has been able to overcome adversity with the team and never lost the locker room
7) Fans say his offense is very poor offensive minded thinking but yet he has one quarterback that has won a Super Bowl MVP award and the other has won the MVP Award twice on his record as head coach
8 ) Has won coach of the year
Also I think it's lames when fans point out he would have been fired if not for Lamar when in alright every head coach needs a franchise quarterback. If not for Patrick Mahomes would Andy Reid still be coaching the Chiefs ? He probably would have retired by now
SepticeyePoe
Hall of Famer
I think he's been a great coach for the Ravens and will always remember the good times. That said, the end of the playoffs last year and how we've performed so far this year make me think it's time for something different
JAAM
Hall of Famer
“CoNtInUiTy”- old geezers that can’t let go of the past and won’t embrace change. These are generally the same folks that probably would still take Flacco over Lamar, today.
Sandtown
MVP
We shall see. I hope it works with Harbaugh cause honestly the likely hood that a new head coach is going to drastically make a difference to the point the team has major playoff success and a super bowl within the same year he was hired aren't that high but if that happens and it's ok cause it's not Harbaugh then I guess I get it..
OURavensFan
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SepticeyePoe
Hall of Famer
I hope it works too. I just feel like this is his last chance and he's doing poorly
Sandtown
MVP
Yeah we will . This wont be a losing season for the team
I don't think anyone is saying Harbs is a bad coach. He's a good coach, but it's time for a change. We see the same issues even when we change coordinators. That's an indicator it's the system as a whole.
He's also arrogant and doesn't like to take accountability and that rubs a lot of people wrong. But hey were just fans at the bar according to Harbs what do we know.
He's also arrogant and doesn't like to take accountability and that rubs a lot of people wrong. But hey were just fans at the bar according to Harbs what do we know.
gtalk12
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When Ben eventually gets into the rotation I am going to be livid if he shows more promise than Faleele.
Purposely sending out a lineman that is worse than the other is malpractice considering your very expensive QB is running for his life. John has actually struck me as the type to bench someone to send a message.
redrum52
Hall of Famer
Strictly off memory Antwan Barnes, Torrey Smith, some OL I can't remember, Kruger and maybe a couple other guys. But we've seen him keep people on the bench for whatever reason. The 2012 OL comes to mind as well. Just remembered we did this same dumb shit with Brown his rookie year.
Sooky
Pro Bowler
Idk I'm torn... Last year was the year for this team. I can't even blame Orr for having an underperforming stacked defense. We lost not only MacDonald, but also Weaver and Wilson to the Titans and Dolphins. Not only that, but Joe D'Alessandris passed away and we lost an incredible coach at one of the weakest positions of the team.
I just don't know how long we can talk about Harbaugh's job security. It feels like it happens more often than an election year. Yes, he isn't a bad coach, but he isn't good as of recently either. In 2024 he gives no edge as a special teams coordinator. Special teams in general is basically dead in football. And he doesn't have the edge on how to abuse NFL game rules like he used to his first 6 or 7 years.
Players on other teams say the Ravens have the best roster in the NFL, if not 2nd to the 49ers. But yet in big games, it always feels like we are the little brother. The only time the Ravens successfully moved the ball on offense in the playoffs was with Kubiak and the Jim Caldwell experiment last-ditch effort that was a curveball to teams in the playoffs.
There are never adjustments in games. You watch the Chiefs games and they adjust it feels like every quarter to what the opposing team is doing. Meanwhile, the Ravens will do the same thing over and over again and just watch Gardner Minshew tear them apart for the 2nd time in 2 years.
It's sad living in the Mahomes era. At least with Brady, the refs weren't so blatantly one-sided in most games. But watching every game of the Chiefs the past 3 years, it's sad that after every positive play the opposing team has to look to the refs to see what might get called even if a penalty doesn't exist. It doesn't feel like real football. And I will be heartbroken if Lamar never gets a chance to play in a SB.
I just don't know how long we can talk about Harbaugh's job security. It feels like it happens more often than an election year. Yes, he isn't a bad coach, but he isn't good as of recently either. In 2024 he gives no edge as a special teams coordinator. Special teams in general is basically dead in football. And he doesn't have the edge on how to abuse NFL game rules like he used to his first 6 or 7 years.
Players on other teams say the Ravens have the best roster in the NFL, if not 2nd to the 49ers. But yet in big games, it always feels like we are the little brother. The only time the Ravens successfully moved the ball on offense in the playoffs was with Kubiak and the Jim Caldwell experiment last-ditch effort that was a curveball to teams in the playoffs.
There are never adjustments in games. You watch the Chiefs games and they adjust it feels like every quarter to what the opposing team is doing. Meanwhile, the Ravens will do the same thing over and over again and just watch Gardner Minshew tear them apart for the 2nd time in 2 years.
It's sad living in the Mahomes era. At least with Brady, the refs weren't so blatantly one-sided in most games. But watching every game of the Chiefs the past 3 years, it's sad that after every positive play the opposing team has to look to the refs to see what might get called even if a penalty doesn't exist. It doesn't feel like real football. And I will be heartbroken if Lamar never gets a chance to play in a SB.
OURavensFan
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The criticism of Harbaugh has been loud everywhere after the first 2 games, it’s very deserved, but now I’m hoping for Harbaugh to show why he’s been here for 17 years and right the ship.
OURavensFan
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There are too many Lamar haters that live off the he can’t win a Super Bowl mantra that need to be proven wrong. Last year is simply disgusting for what happened
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
I’m saying he’s a bad coach, for the reasons you stated.
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
He can start with faalele