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Defenders rarely do better when they leave here. It’s mainly guys on offense who come here and don’t do as well and leave and do well. There’s only two constants there and that’s Joe and John. Joe must go but I’m not yet sure on John. I’m waiting to see how the year goes. While I think John could make the playoffs and stay, I also think he could make the playoffs and not deserve to stay. I need to see how the season plays out for him but I have seen all I need to see on Joe.
Torrey Smith, mike Wallace, kamar Aiken, Steve Smith, Ryan Jensen, Michael oher, say otherwise, regarding players doing well after leaving
Do you have better examples? Steve Smith retired so that’s just an idiotic name to add to this list. Ryan Jensen is valid but he’s still year one and OL are very relative because it takes chemistry on the OL so you rarely have instant chemistry but it does happen. I don’t think Oher, Wallace, or Aiken would be guys I’d use to make a point. Aiken was JAG who never did much and was mostly hyped by the home team. Wallace was at the end of his career and is still at the end. Same goes for Oher. I mean you need to have some talent left to go to another team and do well. Those guys just didn’t. The only one I think on that list that’s valid would be Jensen and it’s still too early.
David Reed, Jeremy Maclin, Jacoby Jones, Marlon Brown
Thinking hard to come up with an example of someone that improved. I guess you could say Benjamin Watson but he was coming off an Achilles last year and reurned to a team and QB he had played for three previous years of his career. And actually he did pretty darn good here last year.
Improved/or remained the same at least. I think part of our problem there is we haven’t been very successful drafting in offense and haven’t really put the capital into the offense early. Part of that is on the FO 100% but you have guys like Boldin who left and did better without Flacco and did better before Flacco. He’s a very good example along with Watson who managed to improve with a different QB throwing them the ball. Dickson also comes to mind to an extent but I wouldn’t say he improved but he at least got back to some of what we saw from him early in his career.
Steve Smith was falling off a cliff before coming here. Oher did very well when left at RT, it was at LT where he struggled, Wallace broke 1k here for the first time in years and fell off a cliff again after leaving, kamar Aiken nearly broke 1k with Ryan mallet throwing to him half the year, and for the argument you’re trying to make, these absolutely are the guys to bring up, near talentless guys who played very well while here and were dumpster juice everywhere else.
Also, boldin had better volume elsewhere, but one thing to keep in mind is cam Cameron’s system is not built for boldin and it showed in his usage and reflected in the numbers, boldin average somewhere around 8-900 a year and usually modest but not bad TD numbers, but also had BY FAR the highest yards per catch here, his YPC is an absolute outlier for 3 whole seasons with us.
But Steve Smith retired. There was no “after” us because he retired. Kinda hard to really use him in any argument. Oher was OK at RT. He did great his first year and was OK after that. Whether that was due to constantly switching his position or not I don’t know. But I wouldn’t call him great I would just say he was available. That’s true on Wallace in his first year but his second year wasn’t and was more in line with his other years. Aiken is JAG but that’s a one year outlier.
eh, those are pretty weak examples TBF. Boldin was injured and misused by Cam much of his time here. After meniscus surgery he was pretty much lights out with Flacco. And as I mentioned Watson was good here and returned to play with a HOF QB he had already spent 3 years with.
Pretty much every receiver that left here(save Q)either didn’t do as well, retired or are now sitting at home watching football on the couch.
The long passes to Boldin existed more here yes but not by that much. I went and checked the stats because I didn’t think your statement was really valid and it doesn’t seem to really suggest you’re entirely right. I’ll agree on Cam misusing him but Boldin had his issues here but had 2 1k yard seasons after although his seasons with us fell just shy. Part of that is definitely coordinating but I’m guessing the other part is Joe. I honestly can’t remember those granular details that far back to give an honest assessment now so unless you want to pull up some stats on him then we can talk on that. I’d like to know how many balls he dropped here compared to elsewhere.
Hey man don’t get me wrong and I’ll admit I probably exaggerated when I said only offense leaves and improves. That’s definitely an exaggeration because I am angry regarding Joe Flacco’s play but I don’t think it changes the fact that Joe is and hasn’t played well for years. I own this guy’s jersey and he was my guy but I’m done with him.
No to discredit what he did but that was an outlier. He’s never come close to doing that before or after
That’s cool.