Does it have to be after.. why can’t it just be comparing players in Baltimore to elsewhere? How they perform here compared to other teams? And oher was pretty damn solid when they let him play RT really up until the end when Monroe got here and he suddenly fell off a cliff
But the argument you tried to make is EXACTLY what this kind of thing disproves, he had 2 years here and in one he produced nearly 1k yards, call an outlier all you want but you say players produce better elsewhere and this is an example disproving that.
I’ll give you that, Flacco can’t hit screens for shit, all these years watching him force WRs to break stride and I’m convinced
Yeah, it has to be after because that’s the whole premise we’re discussing. I’ve quoted my original post for your convenience. If you want to argue what I said, then we have to argue exactly what I said without other additions else it becomes an entirely different discussion. Oher was OK. Maybe I’m remembering it differently and I could be wrong, but he progressively got worse here and only really did well during that legendary playoff run and his first year. So 2010 then was eh in 2011 and came back at the end of 2012 when we put him where he belonged and then 2013 was ugh with the whole OL. I thought Oher did better in CAR for a while before getting hurt? I know he had concussion issues or something.
My argument was guys on offense can leave and do better, which was an exaggeration in hindsight as I already admitted. Wallace did well his first year here then had an eh year and was gone and hasn’t done anything yet. Granted he’s been hurt but still. Boldin is the only one we can think of right now but it also applies to Watson and possibly Dickson but he’s honestly a stretch so I will go and look later when I have more time because I am curious. I simply exaggerated, as I already said. Not sure what else to say here. Guess a guy can’t be wrong. I only say that with sarcasm because you continue to hammer this when I’ve already admitted I exaggerated.
Yeah but I wouldn’t use Kamar Aiken. He had one year. It’s not like he came here and was productive before he came here and sucked after. I was trying to say guys came here after doing well, sucked or didn’t perform the same here, then left and performed well again. I wouldn’t put Aiken in that category.
So as promised I looked into the numbers. I’ll just say I was wrong about what I said regarding players on offense leaving and doing better. I won’t break down all the players but I can; however, I’m not one to refuse to admit when they’re wrong. I definitely exaggerated, as I previously said, with my comment. Tyrod probably played better when he left here but he didn’t get many chances to play here for obvious reasons. You could say guys like Deonte Thompson, Mark Clayton, Juszczyk, Boldin and Watson did better without Flacco but then you have guys like Jacoby Jones, Mason, and more who had a resurgence and were done after they left. I think it’s a wash and speaks more about our poor investment into the offense than anything.
Step 1 for Harbaugh though would have been firing Marty today and installing Greg Roman as OC.
Roman would still coordinate Flacco led offense.
Yes, but he has installed spread concepts in the past for the likes of Alex Smith and Tyrod Taylor. Get Marty out of hear .....
lol.....We have no idea of the circumstances that affected Brown’s status, but I guess when things are going bad the assumption is that someone screwed up. I will say that the couple of times I saw him at practices this summer he looked fit and quick. Love that he’s now got the chance to play. If we only had a 6’4” version of him to play center.
Funny you mention Tyrod because he’s on record saying Joe helped tremendously in his development and in fact kept in touch with him after leaving.
Do you think Flacco is improving? I think he’s getting worse. He’s never had this many passes deflected at the LOS and his balls have been more and more floaters than before. He’s always struggled hitting guys in stride so that’s nothing new. He thrived with Smith drawing DPI and he hasn’t really shown that SB performance since.
This is false. Prior to their game Sunday (I didn't watch it fully or take notes on Hill), the Saints had used Hill on an average of 11 snaps per game.
I wish we had start him sooner. He did say that he was still grasping the playbook so that played a roll in things, outside of that it makes no sense.
We already get tons of 1v1s but our guys just don’t beat them. We need new pass rushers plain and simple.
I only looked at rush attempts and targets, so my info may have been inaccurate.
