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balfan23 said:
I'm not sure why in this scenario you include PIT losing both, because if we win both - PIT loses any game and we get the division. I think you mean if PIT wins both, right?

HOU is the only team we need to worry about SoV. We will beat IND on conference record if we're both 10-6 and will beat TEN on head to head if we are both 10-6. You are correct that TB over DAL is a critical game in terms of our SoV as it relates to HOU. Actually, if the scenario you state comes to pass (with the edit that PIT wins both) I cannot see a way that we get in unless TB wins and even then, there are other outcomes that could knock us out. ATL over CAR, CIN over CLE and GB over NYJ are 3 others games with SoV implications.

So ... we win on Saturday, then we control our destiny for week 17 if:

PIT loses or
HOU wins or
both IND and TEN lose
or a collection of crazy shit that will ensure our SoV is better than HOU (in the even they lose in week 17)

That's what we want (unless you think we are somehow doomed if we control our destiny).
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Yes, you've got it right. It's if Pit wins both which denies the Ravens the division and puts them in the WC tiebreaker.

SoV is a problem against the Colts at 9-7, which is why the most likely 9-7 scenario for the Ravens to get in includes:

WAS beats TEN in W16 (TEN 7th loss)
TEN beats IND in W17 (TEN wins div tiebreaker with IND based on 4-2 div record)
MIA loses 1 more game (Have to beat them outright, because they have conference tiebreaker against Ravens)
BAL wins either of the next 2 games. In this case, the Ravens win the tiebreaker at 9-7 based on HTH.

WAS is a longshot to beat TEN, but that's the game the Ravens really need on Saturday to have any margin for error entering the Chargers game.
 
Italian Raven

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I guess they're well aware of their LB unit and DTs to be under pressure against us and they'll blitz inside as much as possible while Bosa and Ingram contain outside.
This way Lamar would be forced to throw it as quick as possible.
We should see plenty of 1 on 1 outside as James comes down, lurking in the box, but I can't imagine us taking big advantage of it; Lamar accuracy on long connections has been quite horrific.
Not in love with the match ups this time. Hopefully we can still pull out a W.
 
Ellicottraven

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If we can contain their insanely talented edge rushers with good pass protection, I think Lamar will be able to run effectively. Really depends on both our tackles bringing their A game Saturday night and getting help from TEs and backs.... I suspect that they'll try and bottle up the edges forcing us to run down the middle and stack the middle. I don't know how good their interior defensive line is but if Engram and Bosa get consistent double teams it really won't matter. Lamar has to throw the ball effectively for us to have a good chance so we keep them honest and not repeatedly stacking the box.... I am hoping the Chargers don't get off to a hot start and rack up 2-3 TDs to start the game. If we keep it close I think we win on ToP and our running game. Otherwise expect a big L.
 
Sami84

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We've got to want it more. That begins upfront in the trenches. We need to hit rivers and hit him often.
 
redrum52

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RaineV1 said:
In the first half of the season the Panthers looked like SB contenders. Not sure why they went down in flames the way they did, besides Cam's injured shoulder.
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Of course Cam looked like he had the Winter Soldier arm playing against us, then goes to shit against Pit. I'm pretty sure we were their last win.
 
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redrum52 said:
Of course Cam looked like he had the Winter Soldier arm playing against us, then goes to shit against Pit. I'm pretty sure we were their last win.
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Our whole team was uninspired that game. It's almost as if they were so dejected after losing to the Saints that they didn't feel like playing that week. It was honestly one of the worst games I've ever seen us play on both sides of the ball.
 
Sami84

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let's be honest, if you had to put money down, it wouldnt be on us.. this is the toughest game of the year. We have 0 advtanges. They are the better team, at home, pretty healthy and with 10 days rest.
 
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Italian Raven said:
I guess they're well aware of their LB unit and DTs to be under pressure against us and they'll blitz inside as much as possible while Bosa and Ingram contain outside.
This way Lamar would be forced to throw it as quick as possible.
We should see plenty of 1 on 1 outside as James comes down, lurking in the box, but I can't imagine us taking big advantage of it; Lamar accuracy on long connections has been quite horrific.
Not in love with the match ups this time. Hopefully we can still pull out a W.
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important to note just how small their front 7 is - it would make sense for our game plan to be to run right at bosa or ingram and tire those guys out
but we arent gonna win without the intermediate passes inside, especially if derwin james is used as a spy
 
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Sami84 said:
let's be honest, if you had to put money down, it wouldnt be on us.. this is the toughest game of the year. We have 0 advtanges. They are the better team, at home, pretty healthy and with 10 days rest.
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Of course not! That's not a sure thing so to speak. And, at some point in this game, I anticipate that Lamar will have to show off his passing skills well beyond 10-15 yards with a few big strikes downfield. I'd love to see our receivers eat and score a few TD's once in a while. It could happen...

Ravensnation5220 said:
Ya nobodys giving us much of a chance everything is against our favor.....

GOOD!!!
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I don't know about all of that "GOOD" stuff when nobody is giving the Ravens a chance to beat a well-rested Chargers team out in L.A. But, we could surprisingly win that game:

https://ebonybird.com/2018/12/20/baltimore-ravens-can-beat-los-angeles-chargers/

GO RAVENS!!
 
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rossihunter2 said:
important to note just how small their front 7 is - it would make sense for our game plan to be to run right at bosa or ingram and tire those guys out
but we arent gonna win without the intermediate passes inside, especially if derwin james is used as a spy
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Of course our intermediate routes will play a big role, so I guess our creativity in terms of playcall to get them TEs and WRs open will have even a bigger one.
They're defense ain't too far from the Broncos honestly, with two very good Edge players, some good DBs and decent ILBs. It would be interesting to watch again how we exploited that D, albeit under a drastically different system
 
Inqui

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Sami84 said:
let's be honest, if you had to put money down, it wouldnt be on us.. this is the toughest game of the year. We have 0 advtanges. They are the better team, at home, pretty healthy and with 10 days rest.
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You're not wrong, and if I had to do predictions I'd pencil it in as a loss. But I'd be more confident in the Steelers beating the Raiders than in the Chargers winning this one and look what happened there. You never know what's going to happen and all.
 
allblackraven

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Inqui said:
You're not wrong, and if I had to do predictions I'd pencil it in as a loss. But I'd be more confident in the Steelers beating the Raiders than in the Chargers winning this one and look what happened there. You never know what's going to happen and all.
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Yeah, we all kind of know what's gonna happen vs Chargers. We're just pretending we have a chance.
 
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