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Free Agency 2019

Well - I really did feel like Mosely would be retained ... but I am starting to see the odds going a bit lower than I initially anticipated.

Harbaugh saying he want's him back, but There Are 'Limitations on Money'. While that is really the case with any player, saying that publicly may be a bit telling. He does go on to say that since there is mutual interest, that's a good formula for a return ... I have to wonder if we're going to want to swallow the cost.

As with everything, the value of something is only based on the price someone is willing to pay. Some teams having a ton of cash burning a hole in their pocket and is a concern. Here's McFarland's take on his market value:

https://russellstreetreport.com/201...-salary-cap/determining-mosleys-market-value/
If we let mosley go who the hell is going to be our lbs peanut and kenny young.. that would be awful and would literally make us take mack wilson
Well - I really did feel like Mosely would be retained ... but I am starting to see the odds going a bit lower than I initially anticipated.

Harbaugh saying he want's him back, but There Are 'Limitations on Money'. While that is really the case with any player, saying that publicly may be a bit telling. He does go on to say that since there is mutual interest, that's a good formula for a return ... I have to wonder if we're going to want to swallow the cost.

As with everything, the value of something is only based on the price someone is willing to pay. Some teams having a ton of cash burning a hole in their pocket and is a concern. Here's McFarland's take on his market value:

https://russellstreetreport.com/201...-salary-cap/determining-mosleys-market-value/
If we let mosley go who the hell is going to be our lbs peanut and kenny young.. that would be awful and would literally make us take mack wilson , if we have limitations on cj then y tf did we not have limitations on a one dimensional DT we signed to a 5 yr extension in a year we had less salary cap, letting cj go would be terrible
 

rossihunter2

Staff Member
Moderator
Well - I really did feel like Mosely would be retained ... but I am starting to see the odds going a bit lower than I initially anticipated.

Harbaugh saying he want's him back, but There Are 'Limitations on Money'. While that is really the case with any player, saying that publicly may be a bit telling. He does go on to say that since there is mutual interest, that's a good formula for a return ... I have to wonder if we're going to want to swallow the cost.

As with everything, the value of something is only based on the price someone is willing to pay. Some teams having a ton of cash burning a hole in their pocket and is a concern. Here's McFarland's take on his market value:

https://russellstreetreport.com/201...-salary-cap/determining-mosleys-market-value/

when did harbs say there were 'limitations on money'? all that ive seen so far is that there's negotiations going on and that by all accounts they havent stalled which would suggest that both sides are still confident a deal's gonna happen - the fact that everyone's still at the table would suggest the 2 sides arent ridiculously far apart in terms of negotiating terms

my guess is that he gets between 12 and 13 a year from us
and i dont think the franchise tag deadline is a deadline we have to worry about because there's no way we tag him at 15.5m per year because that's edge rusher numbers so we get to negotiate exclusively with him until the legal tampering period...

im still pretty confident this gets done - i didnt see the limitations on money quote anywhere so maybe that changes things but i think Cj remains a raven
 
when did harbs say there were 'limitations on money'? all that ive seen so far is that there's negotiations going on and that by all accounts they havent stalled which would suggest that both sides are still confident a deal's gonna happen - the fact that everyone's still at the table would suggest the 2 sides arent ridiculously far apart in terms of negotiating terms

my guess is that he gets between 12 and 13 a year from us
and i dont think the franchise tag deadline is a deadline we have to worry about because there's no way we tag him at 15.5m per year because that's edge rusher numbers so we get to negotiate exclusively with him until the legal tampering period...

im still pretty confident this gets done - i didnt see the limitations on money quote anywhere so maybe that changes things but i think Cj remains a raven
The quote came direct from his presser. Now it’s not like it’s earth shattering... there are limitations on money by definition in a league with a salary cap. I think 13 will be the minimum and depending how far he wants to take it he could possibly get more on the open market. As I said there are some teams that have a lot of money to spend.

My original thought was that signing him was almost a given but I had to remind myself that not all things are guaranteed when a key player is set to hit FA. I still think he signs I just don’t feet as 100% sure as I once did. And if we sign him he’ll take a big chunk of the available space we currently have.
 

allblackraven

Hall of Famer
The quote came direct from his presser. Now it’s not like it’s earth shattering... there are limitations on money by definition in a league with a salary cap. I think 13 will be the minimum and depending how far he wants to take it he could possibly get more on the open market. As I said there are some teams that have a lot of money to spend.

My original thought was that signing him was almost a given but I had to remind myself that not all things are guaranteed when a key player is set to hit FA. I still think he signs I just don’t feet as 100% sure as I once did. And if we sign him he’ll take a big chunk of the available space we currently have.
The fact that it takes so long to sort out something does not make me confident as I used to be. If he hits FA, he's gone.
 

A1A

Veteran
I'll legit vomit if we let Mosley go that would be a HUGE mistake by Decosta in his Inaugural year

It's funny to hear all of Mosley's critics after a bad year but when he post 5 picks in a year hes the best etc. People forget that my guy suffered a pretty serious knee injury what week 2? I believe it was probably a meniscus tear or something like that maybe even a slight MCL tear. Being a contract year and all he played thru it. U can see he was not himself throughout the year. On top of that he bulked up in the off season which also played a part.
 

Charm City

Pro Bowler
For all the crap we give Mosley, he is one of the best ILBs in the league and will be paid as such in the offseason. We thought this was a down year for him but he still made the probowl, which is a popularity contest. That shows how highly the rest of the league regards him.
 

rossihunter2

Staff Member
Moderator
It's funny to hear all of Mosley's critics after a bad year but when he post 5 picks in a year hes the best etc. People forget that my guy suffered a pretty serious knee injury what week 2? I believe it was probably a meniscus tear or something like that maybe even a slight MCL tear. Being a contract year and all he played thru it. U can see he was not himself throughout the year. On top of that he bulked up in the off season which also played a part.

he was also awesome most of the year anyway - people got hung up on 1 bad game and let that change how they watched him through the next few weeks...

he was still doing things this year that very few linebackers in the league even think to do let alone do them as effectively as he does

sure he only had 1 pick all year but ints typically vary greatly season to season based on luck - the whole ravens defence was down on ints despite having a better defence at every level this year than the year before
 

Justin Diaz-Thomas

Practice Squad
It's funny to hear all of Mosley's critics after a bad year but when he post 5 picks in a year hes the best etc. People forget that my guy suffered a pretty serious knee injury what week 2? I believe it was probably a meniscus tear or something like that maybe even a slight MCL tear. Being a contract year and all he played thru it. U can see he was not himself throughout the year. On top of that he bulked up in the off season which also played a part.

I've been lurking since the BR.Com days and you're right Mosley does get a lot of hate here which I never understood, he's a hell of a player. Normally I have blind allegiance to any Raven draft pick i.e Kyle Boller, Travis Taylor, Trash ass Deron Jenkins but Mosley is gonna be a 7-9X pro bowl player maybe more if he stays healthy he's worth every penny
 

RL52TheGreatest

Ravens Ring of Honor
I think a lot of the "hate" directed towards Mosley is based on how he plays when he's banged up because when he's close to 100 percent then he's easily one of the best LBs in the league. Unfortunately, he gets a lot of nagging injuries which just magnify his weaknesses (mainly coverage) and then you start to see some fans starting to complain about him.

We need to do all we can to keep this guy. He's a great leader for the defense and I don't trust Young or Peanut to handle play-calling duties either (Weddle can call plays, but even if he's back next year then I think it would be a reduced role with his declining physical abilities).
 

DeVito52

Ravens Ring of Honor
For all the crap we give Mosley, he is one of the best ILBs in the league and will be paid as such in the offseason. We thought this was a down year for him but he still made the probowl, which is a popularity contest. That shows how highly the rest of the league regards him.
What....so because a player is popular among fans that makes him good? That’s just not a good point...

You can’t make fun of it for being a popularity contest and then praise him for winning the popularity contest
 

RavensMania

Staff Member
Administrator
with Culley being hired as the new WR coach passing game coordinator i could see us bringing in Chris Conley at the right price.
 

Dom McRaven

Hall of Famer
What....so because a player is popular among fans that makes him good? That’s just not a good point...

You can’t make fun of it for being a popularity contest and then praise him for winning the popularity contest
Tebow would be one of the greatest players to have ever play this game if popularity = skill.
 

Charm City

Pro Bowler
What....so because a player is popular among fans that makes him good? That’s just not a good point...

You can’t make fun of it for being a popularity contest and then praise him for winning the popularity contest
My point was that winning the popularity contest comes with a cash prize
 

Grim

Ravens Ring of Honor
with Culley being hired as the new WR coach passing game coordinator i could see us bringing in Chris Conley at the right price.
That would be a nice move, actually. It wouldn’t be the worst idea and I think it would be one of the best options we would have at WR for FA.
 

RavensMania

Staff Member
Administrator
That would be a nice move, actually. It wouldn’t be the worst idea and I think it would be one of the best options we would have at WR for FA.
Yes, he had a decent jump this year even being down the depth chart.
 

cdp

Ravens Ring of Honor
That would be a nice move, actually. It wouldn’t be the worst idea and I think it would be one of the best options we would have at WR for FA.
Why Conley just because Culley coached him before? What do you think of Dorsett or Ty.Williams?
 

RavensMania

Staff Member
Administrator
Why Conley just because Culley coached him before? What do you think of Dorsett or Ty.Williams?
Like Williams as well. Williams did well when Allen was injured. Think he’s a better option than Dorsett
 

Charm City

Pro Bowler
Why Conley just because Culley coached him before? What do you think of Dorsett or Ty.Williams?
According to PFF, ty Williams is the second best WR in free agency. That might overinflate his price due to a weak year and I don't think he's worth >$8mil/year
 
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