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Free Agency 2019

JO_75

JO_75

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Hopefully the Raiders overpay for Bell as they try to be the Steelers west so we can use that money to re-sign CJ.
 
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Deebo813

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rossihunter2 said:
for guys who are predominantly great runners of the football in various ways - but people who can tote the rock between the tackles

tevin coleman is not a great runner of the football - his value comes from getting on the edge and as a receiver which our execs have very explicitly said is not a priority in a running back for our team this year but we would happily bring in a player with good receiving skills but only as a complement to their abilities as a runner

hence why i think coleman is unlikely to be high on a list of free agent targets for us
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If a rb that can also catch is not a priority, we are doomed.
 
JO_75

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The first mistake by Eric was not tagging CJ. It would have bought us another year to get a deal done but for some reason we are content with letting him test the market.
 
Davesta

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Lost_In_Translation said:
I'll be the first to say it....

WE'VE LOST THE OFFSEASON
OUR SEASON IS OVER
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Great. Let the #tank4tua commence!

But anyways, if we do lose Mosley, I just don’t want to sign someone big enough to offset the 3rd round comp pick we’re going to get for Mosley. That comp pick should be top 3
 
Sami84

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He's 6'2 and one of the better coverage ILBs around. In all seasons he's been ranked higher than CJ grades wise ( PFF) he doesn't have the same ''stats'' as mosely but that's because he's been in different D's that have different responsibilites.
 
rossihunter2

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Charm City said:
I'm sure they have no internal bias against Mosely. He gets graded just as harshly as the other ILBs. He was never a great coverage ILB, but he is a great run defender.
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my point is the way they grade linebackers is weird - they weight certain things weirdly and it means that CJ is perennially undergraded - im not saying they're biased against mosley just that their grading system is incredibly flawed when dealing with linebackers

and him being bad in coverage is significantly over-played - he's not incredible but there's almost no LBs who arent victimised in man-coverage at some point
 
Sami84

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rossihunter2 said:
my point is the way they grade linebackers is weird - they weight certain things weirdly and it means that CJ is perennially undergraded - im not saying they're biased against mosley just that their grading system is incredibly flawed when dealing with linebackers

and him being bad in coverage is significantly over-played - he's not incredible but there's almost no LBs who arent victimised in man-coverage at some point
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I'll put it to you this way. Bobby Wagner and Luke Kuechly scream awesome when i watch them without needing to go on PFF

and on PFF they are constantly top 3 every year

CJ does not and he has barely cracked the top 10 in PFF in all his years ( he's basically above average) and he wants to be paid like HE IS the Luke Kuechly of 2019.

Nope
 
allblackraven

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Sami84 said:
I'll put it to you this way. Bobby Wagner and Luke Kuechly scream awesome when i watch them without needing to go on PFF

and on PFF they are constantly top 3 every year

CJ does not and he has barely cracked the top 10 in PFF in all his years ( he's basically above average) and he wants to be paid like HE IS the Luke Kuechly of 2019.

Nope
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That is very different discussion than saying Jordan Hicks gives you the same for half the price.
 
Sami84

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allblackraven said:
That is very different discussion than saying Jordan Hicks gives you the same for half the price.
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he'll give you more in coverage.

Wouldnt shock me if we rolled out with PO and KY and see how they roll. Maybe we should just build our O for this year, ignore the D and go full on with D next year.
 
allblackraven

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Sami84 said:
he'll give you more in coverage.

Wouldnt shock me if we rolled out with PO and KY and see how they roll. Maybe we should just build our O for this year, ignore the D and go full on with D next year.
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He might give you a little more in coverage and not even close to what CJ means in run D and, most importantly, as a play caller.

I am still pretty sure we won't let him leave.
 
Jacquouille

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Sami84 said:
He's 6'2 and one of the better coverage ILBs around. In all seasons he's been ranked higher than CJ grades wise ( PFF) he doesn't have the same ''stats'' as mosely but that's because he's been in different D's that have different responsibilites.
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So the fact that he's teared and broke everything in his body doesn't count in the formula?
 
Sami84

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Jacquouille said:
So the fact that he's teared and broke everything in his body doesn't count in the formula?
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Short term deal is no harm. I'd rather we focused our FA on Trey Flowers and one of the safties and an O linesman and then look at the draft for ILB WR or RB.
 
cdp

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Sami84 said:
Short term deal is no harm. I'd rather we focused our FA on Trey Flowers and one of the safties and an O linesman and then look at the draft for ILB WR or RB.
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Trey Flowers would be nice. Do you know what injury he is currently dealing with? I think I read he underwent surgery.
 
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