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Dom McRaven

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I do like the fact that it's reported that Ravens players were irked at the hype that the Browns were and have been getting, but it's put up or shut up. If we lose this game, we MUST WIN the next two.
 

RavensMania

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Man the fat one - Whitlock and the loud one - Stephen A are just obnoxious. They hate Lamar for the heck of it. No make it to get clicks and views I guess. But, that to me is just low lifey.
Stephan A should stick to basketball.
 

Edgar

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Have to experiment with the interior personnel. I don't wish to see Williams and Pierce together rushing the quarterback. I might activate Mack and see what he offers pushing the pocket along with moving McPhee inside routinely on passing downs (with Judon and Tim outside).
 

rossihunter2

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Have to experiment with the interior personnel. I don't wish to see Williams and Pierce together rushing the quarterback. I might activate Mack and see what he offers pushing the pocket along with moving McPhee inside routinely on passing downs (with Judon and Tim outside).

im one of timmy's biggest supporters but he and tyus have shown very little ability to get pressure from the edge and its hurting us at 2 spots on passing downs...

it means that mcphee is rushing from outside more often which means he's playing more snaps than he probably should but it also means we're losing the potential for quality interior pressure by mcphee

there's so much potential on the edge in timmy and tyus but this is year 3 and neither of them has really stepped up to be better than depth so far - i loved timmy coming out, i loved his play in the start of year 2 and i thought he was excellent in preseason but im close to checking out on waiting for him to put it together and same goes for tyus (but i was never as in on tyus as i was and still am on timmy)
 

Edgar

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im one of timmy's biggest supporters but he and tyus have shown very little ability to get pressure from the edge and its hurting us at 2 spots on passing downs...

it means that mcphee is rushing from outside more often which means he's playing more snaps than he probably should but it also means we're losing the potential for quality interior pressure by mcphee

there's so much potential on the edge in timmy and tyus but this is year 3 and neither of them has really stepped up to be better than depth so far - i loved timmy coming out, i loved his play in the start of year 2 and i thought he was excellent in preseason but im close to checking out on waiting for him to put it together and same goes for tyus (but i was never as in on tyus as i was and still am on timmy)
Still feel that Tim is close and provides speed from the edge. We cannot continue trying to get pressure inside with Wormley and Williams. You rush those two inside and we may as well surrender the pocket.
 

rossihunter2

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Still feel that Tim is close and provides speed from the edge. We cannot continue trying to get pressure inside with Wormley and Williams. You rush those two inside and we may as well surrender the pocket.

ive hardly noticed wormley at all this year which is a surprise
i still have hope with tim but i need to see something soon - there comes a point where getting pressures but no hits and sacks is a problem

i realise im overreacting to 3 games where he has got some pressures (e.g. on the mahomes flush that led to the judon horse-collar) but i need him to start actually getting to the qb - so often i criticised ZDS for not finishing it would be hypocritical of me not to be disappointed in timmy for something similar
 

Edgar

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ive hardly noticed wormley at all this year which is a surprise
i still have hope with tim but i need to see something soon - there comes a point where getting pressures but no hits and sacks is a problem

i realise im overreacting to 3 games where he has got some pressures (e.g. on the mahomes flush that led to the judon horse-collar) but i need him to start actually getting to the qb - so often i criticised ZDS for not finishing it would be hypocritical of me not to be disappointed in timmy for something similar
Im not saying Tim has stepped up and maybe Im misremembering but Im pretty sure I saw Tim get the edge at least twice and force a throw and flush the QB vs. KC. To your point; he hasn't been consistent and he hasn't finished.
 

Edgar

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Boykin hasn't stressed the defense in the slightest. no one is worried about game planning him and The ravens aren't really targeting him.need to move him a little and perhaps scheme to get him loose if he's your number two.
 

rossihunter2

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Im not saying Tim has stepped up and maybe Im misremembering but Im pretty sure I saw Tim get the edge at least twice and force a throw and flush the QB vs. KC. To your point; he hasn't been consistent and he hasn't finished.

yeah he flushed mahomes for the would be throwaway that judon then forced to create a stop but judon's horse-collar gave the chiefs a new set of downs

harbs is clearly not happy with him or tyus - their snaps are down and he called the two of them out in the media this week - they're going to have to actively earn back the snaps they're losing

consistency is the way to get more playing time - i thought timmy had taken a step up vs the run last year and that i think is a clear way for him to get more snaps in this defence even if hes not getting home especially with how many snaps pernell is playing (really not ideal for him to be playing 80%+ snaps) with tyus there's a clear ceiling on his snaps unless he can become a pure rusher because he plays the same position as judon and judon's gonna be on the field more than any other edge guy for the most part
 

RL52TheGreatest

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Boykin hasn't stressed the defense in the slightest. no one is worried about game planning him and The ravens aren't really targeting him.need to move him a little and perhaps scheme to get him loose if he's your number two.

Out of curiosity, has he been getting open at all? I haven't noticed it watching the games on TV or in person, but I also haven't really been focusing on him either. I just wanna know what you've seen from watching the tape. Boykin has been a big disappointment so far and I hope he can start to turn things around.
 

Edgar

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yeah he flushed mahomes for the would be throwaway that judon then forced to create a stop but judon's horse-collar gave the chiefs a new set of downs

harbs is clearly not happy with him or tyus - their snaps are down and he called the two of them out in the media this week - they're going to have to actively earn back the snaps they're losing

consistency is the way to get more playing time - i thought timmy had taken a step up vs the run last year and that i think is a clear way for him to get more snaps in this defence even if hes not getting home especially with how many snaps pernell is playing (really not ideal for him to be playing 80%+ snaps) with tyus there's a clear ceiling on his snaps unless he can become a pure rusher because he plays the same position as judon and judon's gonna be on the field more than any other edge guy for the most part
I noticed him beating his guy and/or forcing a throw/flush on each of his first four snaps vs. Kc.
he had three consecutive in the first quarter. and his first rep in Q2 is a pressure. I'll see about a Gif for us to see.
 

Edgar

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rep 1.gif


rep 2.gif

these are his first two reps
 
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