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Pass rush

rossihunter2 said:
maybe ive just been projecting on him but i thought he was fairly maligned before the steelers picked up his 5th year option

statistically this is by far his best year - he's already matched his career best sack total in half a season - i just dont know if i trust that increase in production because of the improved talent around him the past 2 years - you say that's when he's played better and maybe that's true but i also have to wonder if its not coincidental that that's when TJ Watt joined the team...
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I think it’s definitely related to Watt emerging but I also think it’s more than that too. I don’t know if Dupree is really a top option but I think he’s a decent #2. It really depends on the deal he would get whether we should or shouldn’t entertain him. That’s my stance on it. We could do better and we could do a lot worse than him too. I’d say he’s better than everyone we had this year except Judon and that’s a bit debatable as well.
 
Grim said:
I think it’s definitely related to Watt emerging but I also think it’s more than that too. I don’t know if Dupree is really a top option but I think he’s a decent #2. It really depends on the deal he would get whether we should or shouldn’t entertain him. That’s my stance on it. We could do better and we could do a lot worse than him too. I’d say he’s better than everyone we had this year except Judon and that’s a bit debatable as well.
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my feeling is more like why would we pay dupree if we werent gonna pay ZDS
 
Grim said:
I think it’s definitely related to Watt emerging but I also think it’s more than that too. I don’t know if Dupree is really a top option but I think he’s a decent #2. It really depends on the deal he would get whether we should or shouldn’t entertain him. That’s my stance on it. We could do better and we could do a lot worse than him too. I’d say he’s better than everyone we had this year except Judon and that’s a bit debatable as well.
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Judon is a much better player overall. Market would probably tell that, too but if we must choose between Judon and Dupree, I would have zero hesitation paying Matt.
 
rossihunter2 said:
maybe ive just been projecting on him but i thought he was fairly maligned before the steelers picked up his 5th year option

statistically this is by far his best year - he's already matched his career best sack total in half a season - i just dont know if i trust that increase in production because of the improved talent around him the past 2 years - you say that's when he's played better and maybe that's true but i also have to wonder if its not coincidental that that's when TJ Watt joined the team...
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The criticism was very fair, but I believe this year and last he’s been much improved
 
So maybe its coloured by how bad those two drives in the no huddle were but its surprising seeing takes like this on twitter with tape from someone i think of as a really good evaluator of ravens players

https://twitter.com/abukari/status/1192557190156029954

and obviously that's just one play but he's got it in him - and i think we'd be way more forgiving if some of jaylon's work in the passing game led to some finishes
 
rossihunter2 said:
So maybe its coloured by how bad those two drives in the no huddle were but its surprising seeing takes like this on twitter with tape from someone i think of as a really good evaluator of ravens players

https://twitter.com/abukari/status/1192557190156029954

and obviously that's just one play but he's got it in him - and i think we'd be way more forgiving if some of jaylon's work in the passing game led to some finishes
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Yeah, my boy will be just fine.
 
allblackraven said:
Yeah, my boy will be just fine.
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i hope so - 4 of the guys i had in the pound the table thread in the draft section came to baltimore - hollywood, justice hill, antoine wesley and jaylon ferguson so id really appreciate jaylon getting me to at least 50% success lol
 
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