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Grim

Ravens Ring of Honor
very true

JADEVEON CLOWNEYDL, SEATTLE SEAHAWKS

Coach Pete Carroll said impending free agent DE Jadeveon Clowney informed GM John Schneider that "he loves it here" and would like to re-sign with the Seahawks.
Carroll always paints a rosy picture, but we have no reason to not believe him, as Clowney apparently went to Schneider's office Monday and told him how much he loved his first season in Seattle. Clowney's sack numbers weren't there with just three on the year, but he played through a core-muscle injury that will require surgery next week, and still generated a ton of pressure off the edge while maintaining high-end run defense. Seattle will surely want to try and bring Clowney back after trading for him last summer.

Im all for Clowney but it has to be for the right price, but can anyone justify $20 million?
My issue with Clowney is the guy gets hurt a lot. He’s got talent and I’d be good with him but he can’t seem to stay healthy. Doesn’t he get hurt a lot?
 

Ellicottraven

Ravens Ring of Honor
One silver lining (if that) in the loss. Punk pundits like Stephen A. and other pundits stop using the narrative that the 'second time a team sees Lamar...." BS.
 

JoeyFlex5

Hall of Famer
no question he would be my top choice and I wanted the Ravens to draft him. hell I was the one who totally backed Simmons in the 2019 draft.
Hey now, I wanted Simmons too, one of my absolute favorite prospects but I knew he was off the ravens boards
 

Sami84

Ravens Ring of Honor
Would it be feasible to

Sign Judon to an Extension
Sign Chris Jones
Sign Joe Schobert


Draft: tyler biadasz ( i think he's elite from day 1 TBH)


Release Carr
Release jimmy
Let Pierce walk

If Yanda retires that saves us 7 million ( which i think would make my plan feasible)
 

Charm City

Pro Bowler
My offseason signing wishlist includes:

Robby Anderson WR
Pharoah Cooper WR/KR
Tre Boston S
Joe Schobert or Blake Martinez ILB
Andrew Billings or Maliek Collins DT
Jordan Jenkins or Markus Golden EDGE

These are all B/B- players that can fill some holes in our defense without breaking the bank. If we can check off every box we should be set up great next year.
 

RavensMania

Staff Member
Administrator
Would it be feasible to

Sign Judon to an Extension
Sign Chris Jones
Sign Joe Schobert


Draft: tyler biadasz ( i think he's elite from day 1 TBH)


Release Carr
Release jimmy
Let Pierce walk

If Yanda retires that saves us 7 million ( which i think would make my plan feasible)
that won't work. We have 34 million in cap space after the Peters hire and will need around 6m or more for draft picks, so that brings us down to 28m. We also have to sign some RFAs. Extending Judon is going to cost around 17-18m. Chris Jones will be the same or more and Schobert could be around 15m. We can't do that to our cap and be in this situation again.

I agree we will most likely let one of Jimmy or Carr walk and Biadasz would be a good signing but I'm hoping an edge or MLB in the draft.
 

rossihunter2

Staff Member
Moderator
Would it be feasible to

Sign Judon to an Extension
Sign Chris Jones
Sign Joe Schobert


Draft: tyler biadasz ( i think he's elite from day 1 TBH)


Release Carr
Release jimmy
Let Pierce walk

If Yanda retires that saves us 7 million ( which i think would make my plan feasible)

no way in hell is that feasible - we've only got about 35m in disposable cap space - that's more than we've had for a long time but its not enough to do all that - you forgot to release jefferson also

with regards to biadasz - he looked like a stud in 2018 and probably should have come out last year - this year has looked stiff and slow at times - still a first 2 round kind of guy but not a lock to be a great player straight away tbh
 

Sami84

Ravens Ring of Honor
no way in hell is that feasible - we've only got about 35m in disposable cap space - that's more than we've had for a long time but its not enough to do all that - you forgot to release jefferson also

with regards to biadasz - he looked like a stud in 2018 and probably should have come out last year - this year has looked stiff and slow at times - still a first 2 round kind of guy but not a lock to be a great player straight away tbh

I guess in the case we don't sign judon it's weaver for me. Not sure about terrell lewis ( epic ravens name tho)
 
that won't work. We have 34 million in cap space after the Peters hire and will need around 6m or more for draft picks, so that brings us down to 28m. We also have to sign some RFAs. Extending Judon is going to cost around 17-18m. Chris Jones will be the same or more and Schobert could be around 15m. We can't do that to our cap and be in this situation again.

I agree we will most likely let one of Jimmy or Carr walk and Biadasz would be a good signing but I'm hoping an edge or MLB in the draft.
Not that it makes this feasible, but there is cap space that can be created that you aren't counting here.

There is inconsistent use of "let walk" and "release" for these players in these statements. Jimmy and Pierce would be "let walk" (no savings) but Carr is a release that saves 6M. Also remember Jefferson will be released and will add 7M. Sami also threw in a Yanda retirement that adds 7M more ... but also creates another hole that would need to be filled, unless we think someone like Ben Powers is going to step in and fill in. To call that a downgrade would be an understatement.
 

rossihunter2

Staff Member
Moderator
I guess in the case we don't sign judon it's weaver for me. Not sure about terrell lewis ( epic ravens name tho)

im not big into weaver either tbh - has some decent traits but beat up on lesser OLs without the athletic gifts to suggest he can translate what he's doing to NFL tackles - think he'd be a decent 2nd or 3rd round guy maybe but certainly not someone id be personally comfortable with in the 1st

terrell lewis has lots of injury history but could be special
 

RavensMania

Staff Member
Administrator
Not that it makes this feasible, but there is cap space that can be created that you aren't counting here.

There is inconsistent use of "let walk" and "release" for these players in these statements. Jimmy and Pierce would be "let walk" (no savings) but Carr is a release that saves 6M. Also remember Jefferson will be released and will add 7M. Sami also threw in a Yanda retirement that adds 7M more ... but also creates another hole that would need to be filled, unless we think someone like Ben Powers is going to step in and fill in. To call that a downgrade would be an understatement.
yes, I should have added it, but I still don't think it would be appropriate to do that. We need to keep our cap flexible and not push to the boundaries. We don't know how much the cap will be raised at the end of the cba.
 

RavensFan419

Pro Bowler
All season I thought it was clear we cut Jefferson but some of me now thinks we let Bcar walk and keep the talent in the safety position with Tony playing shins Chuck Clark and or we restructure him idk man that 7mil I think is worth cutting him but for some reason I don’t think it happens
 

rossihunter2

Staff Member
Moderator
All season I thought it was clear we cut Jefferson but some of me now thinks we let Bcar walk and keep the talent in the safety position with Tony playing shins Chuck Clark and or we restructure him idk man that 7mil I think is worth cutting him but for some reason I don’t think it happens

Man I think that whole “council” group on defence is probably gone this year

It’s not worth paying TJ 7m in cap space for being great on twitter - this is the 80/20 rule except it’s more like 150/5 - what’s TJ’s role on this team if he comes back because he’s not getting the starting role back from chuck that’s for sure
 
All season I thought it was clear we cut Jefferson but some of me now thinks we let Bcar walk and keep the talent in the safety position with Tony playing shins Chuck Clark and or we restructure him idk man that 7mil I think is worth cutting him but for some reason I don’t think it happens
I don't know I will be stunned if we don't release Jefferson. His play to start the season was below the level of play we can get out of a much, much cheaper option. Combined with the fact we have very limited options in creating space, I think Jefferson's release is a no-brainer.
 

allblackraven

Hall of Famer
All season I thought it was clear we cut Jefferson but some of me now thinks we let Bcar walk and keep the talent in the safety position with Tony playing shins Chuck Clark and or we restructure him idk man that 7mil I think is worth cutting him but for some reason I don’t think it happens
Elliott is better than both Carr and Jefferson
 
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