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The Running Game, The Lamar and The Ronnie

D1City55

Pro Bowler
Ugh, Skura was horrible today. Got blown up multiple times and struggled 1v1. Whole OL struggled massively in pass protection.
 

D1City55

Pro Bowler
I don’t blame Hollywood for being upset. Hes a 1st round pick with massive talent. Give him the Football.
 

rossihunter2

Staff Member
Moderator
Agreed. It's kind of sad that we have so much speed on O and have not found a way to get the deep passing game working at all. Just doing the same things over and over again.

or even find ways to get those guys the ball in space in other ways - there's tons of ways to use speed to stress a defence and it feels like we dont use them

we still dont use screens at all

how many offensive coordinators have we gone through since the last time the screen was a legitimate part of our offensive playbook?
 

Simba

Staff Member
Moderator
or even find ways to get those guys the ball in space in other ways - there's tons of ways to use speed to stress a defence and it feels like we dont use them

we still dont use screens at all

how many offensive coordinators have we gone through since the last time the screen was a legitimate part of our offensive playbook?

We had that one to Duvernay early that was thrown high and bounced off of his hands, and then we never saw anything close to that again. Again, not too dissimilar to other weeks. Do one early in the game and then forget about it.
 

JAAM

Hall of Famer
Yannick looked good for it being his first game. Saw him in the backfield nearly getting to Ben a few times
 

Simba

Staff Member
Moderator
Or the missed OPI when they ran a pick play. Or missed holding calls. Or missed unnecessary roughness. Or ticky tacky DPIs

I'm not big on blaming refs, but today was egregious. Both the Peters and Bonds calls were so minimal. I think Jimmy got lucky on his that Johnson had very poor acting skills or they probably would have found a way to call that one as well.
 

cdp

Ravens Ring of Honor
I'm not big on blaming refs, but today was egregious. Both the Peters and Bonds calls were so minimal. I think Jimmy got lucky on his that Johnson had very poor acting skills or they probably would have found a way to call that one as well.
I don't blame refs who are stricter as long as they treat both teams equally. It's annoying but still fair.
But not knowing the rules is, i don't know what...complete failure? How can they forget about adding time back to the clock after Heyward went down?
 

SepticeyePoe

Hall of Famer
Can someone get me a clip of the holding call on the Lamar Jackson run play? that pissed me off so much
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I slowed the clip down. You can see a small tug on his right sleeve, which I think is what they got Skura for. But it happened so fast, and was so small that I think it was very ticky tacky. I could not see it without watching over and over again.

I can also send you the normal speed gif from the broadcast (they also slowed it down, but not as much).
 

Dom McRaven

Hall of Famer
The one thing I like is that we get another shot at them later on in the year. That game will prob decide the division
I could give AF less about the division. If we win it again, cool. All I care about is getting in. Besides, I'd like to see what Lamar can do in a road playoff game.
 

rmcjacket23

Ravens Ring of Honor
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I slowed the clip down. You can see a small tug on his right sleeve, which I think is what they got Skura for. But it happened so fast, and was so small that I think it was very ticky tacky. I could not see it without watching over and over again.

I can also send you the normal speed gif from the broadcast (they also slowed it down, but not as much).
If a ref sees a defender reaching out fully with one arm, and the other arm is tucked, almost as if he's being pulled in another direction, they're going to throw the flag. It's ticky tack on replay, but they don't call plays in slow motion. If you play that at full speed, it looks like a hold 100% of the time.
 

purplepittabread88

Staff Member
Administrator
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I slowed the clip down. You can see a small tug on his right sleeve, which I think is what they got Skura for. But it happened so fast, and was so small that I think it was very ticky tacky. I could not see it without watching over and over again.

I can also send you the normal speed gif from the broadcast (they also slowed it down, but not as much).
yea could you send me the normal too? thank you very much.
 

SepticeyePoe

Hall of Famer
If a ref sees a defender reaching out fully with one arm, and the other arm is tucked, almost as if he's being pulled in another direction, they're going to throw the flag. It's ticky tack on replay, but they don't call plays in slow motion. If you play that at full speed, it looks like a hold 100% of the time.

yea could you send me the normal too? thank you very much.

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Still looks clunkier than the video I took from the recording. I can't get a better angle at normal speed without gamepass.
 

rmcjacket23

Ravens Ring of Honor
My early takeaways:
1. Lamar was terrible. Not much else to be said there. He made several horrible decisions, missed some easy throws, and made some easy throws look difficult. You can't overcome 4 turnovers.
2. Running game looked great.
3. Will be brutally difficult to replace Stanley, but I do "like" that it happened early in the season vs later. Team has 9 regular season games to learn to build an Oline that can compete. We've won playoff games with bad Olines before. He's a very important player, and one of the worst to lose, but if you can't overcome a non-QB injury, you weren't a contender to begin with.
4. Defense overall played well. Shut down the run game, and played a dominant first half. I think the Steelers offense is greatly overrated, and I think today showed a lot of people that. They had basically two good drives the whole game. The rest of their points were gift-wrapped.
5. On Judon...
I don't care if he intentionally made contact with the ref or not. I have no idea why he's even interjecting himself in that situation to begin with. Its a WR and DB skirmish, that happens every game in this league. Its breaking up, and no other players are involved. Then he comes flying in to tackle the DB to "stand up" for a player that doesn't need to be stood up for. You don't make contact with an official if you're not involved, and that didn't warrant involvement.
Stupid decision.
6. I'm not sure why so many people, including Harbaugh, are upset about the non-call on the final play. Fitzpatrick is 100% making a play on the ball, and in fact, I thought he made a better play on it than Snead did. He's coming in with both arms open trying to catch the ball. Its nowhere near the level of a defender going in to cleanup a play, because I don't even think he knows or cares where the receiver is.
As-is, expecting a flag there is about the equivalent of expecting a DPI call on a hail mary. It's not happening.
When in doubt, i just flip the script. That's JuJu catching a game winning pass, with Elliott defending. Elliott makes the exact same play and contact. You still good with the flag coming out? I don't think so.

Among several ticky-tack penalty calls, the one to complain about is the lack of clock reset on the Heyward injury with 8 seconds left. He was down on the ground behind the play a good 5-10 seconds before the refs saw him, since he's 50 yards behind. Refs need to diagnose that quicker and blow the clock dead, or let the play run and have the Steelers take the offsides penalty. Gives the Ravens at least one, and maybe two, more plays.

I also put no stock in the people posting pictures of a wide open Brown in the end zone on the final play. He wasn't close to wide open when the ball was released. Those snap shots are taken after his DB bailed to go to the middle to make a play on Snead. He may have been "more open" than Snead, but I'm not confident throwing a jump ball to a tiny receiver on my final play.
 
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