Signings, Cuts, Trades

[Sandtown]

That’s a big “ought to” for a guy who has shown next to no NFL ability, like the dude doesn’t understand the concepts that he’s running, he’s just trying to be in a certain place at a certain time and hopes he does it right. I’ve lost faith in Boykin, just doesn’t seem to have that “go” mentality.

I don't think it's as big as you make it out to be. Like I understand that Myles Boykins didn't live up to expectations but if you watch tape the guy was open more than Ravens fans may believe.. Lamar Jackson at times just simply ignore him but he also ignored Seth Roberts whom you claim was better even though stats may say other wise. Like the hate for Boykins is some what weird because his situations is sooo different from Tandon Doss or Deonte Thompson. It's like Ravens fans still remember those receivers in 2013 and just don't expect Boykins to even get better base off of past receivers. It's even crazy cause he showed more than Devin Duvernay but yet Duvernay is looked upon as future star or something.

I just don't understand why he is counted out so much but it is what its. Hopefully Keith Williams and Tee Martin can help him tremendously though.

 

[JoeyFlex5]

And the fun post of current WRs on the market...

• Sammy Watkins
• TY Hilton
• Golden Tate
• Demarcus Robinson
• Adam Humphries
• Willie Snead
• Damiere Byrd
• Dede Westbrook

Had to add a few names this go around, and that's depressing. Westbrook would be an interesting name but coming off of a torn ACL so probably wouldn't be an option until closer to training camp, if he's even ready by then.

This also assume Larry Fitzgerald is limited to the list of teams that's been reported, so not an option here (not that I'd want him anyways).

Isn’t Westbrook a confirmed DV offender too?

 

[JAAM]

EDC needs to put on his big boy pants and make a trade, and Harbaugh needs to not openly say stupid shit like “we’re not begging a WR to come here”. Mf we should be begging for Lamar’s sake

 

[BoredMarine13]

Or don't spend any cap space at all and save it for next year when a couple of important contracts are due

I don't disagree but we have some holes to fill on the D side of the ball. It's clear no one wants to come play in our offense so let's focus on pumping the D so at least one unit can compete at a high level next year.


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[ndub]

It should absolutely be a very humbling experience for WRs who we’re interested in to not be interested in us. That should signify to the powers that be that there is a clear problem going on, but I’m learning that the staff is more stubborn than bulls to change their approach.

 

[rossihunter2]

I don't think it's as big as you make it out to be. Like I understand that Myles Boykins didn't live up to expectations but if you watch tape the guy was open more than Ravens fans may believe.. Lamar Jackson at times just simply ignore him but he also ignored Seth Roberts whom you claim was better even though stats may say other wise. Like the hate for Boykins is some what weird because his situations is sooo different from Tandon Doss or Deonte Thompson. It's like Ravens fans still remember those receivers in 2013 and just don't expect Boykins to even get better base off of past receivers. It's even crazy cause he showed more than Devin Duvernay but yet Duvernay is looked upon as future star or something.

I just don't understand why he is counted out so much but it is what its. Hopefully Keith Williams and Tee Martin can help him tremendously though.

he was open somewhat - but he wasn't often open early in the route and corners were really comfortable sitting in his hip pocket - had some drags/digs where he was open early in space and lamar just didn't get the ball to him as an outlet

but it really looks like lamar just doesn't trust him to read coverage and run the right route which makes it really tricky for him to pull the trigger i guess - i think sometimes also he seems to track the ball late/react to the ball late/doesn't adjust to the ball well - those are the things that are really worrying when you think about his potential to develop

he still has traits you can't coach with his speed and loose hips combined with his size - but other than his ability to hand-fight vs press i havent seen a ton of development from college

 

[rossihunter2]

It should absolutely be a very humbling experience for WRs who we’re interested in to not be interested in us. That should signify to the powers that be that there is a clear problem going on, but I’m learning that the staff is more stubborn than bulls to change their approach.

tbf we dont know that it hasnt actually changed - the problem we now have is that even if we want to change we might not be able to put together the weapons to be able to facilitate that which could become a vicious cycle of sorts

puts a lot of pressure on finding receiving weapons (emphasis on the plural) in the draft

 

[ndub]

tbf we dont know that it hasnt actually changed - the problem we now have is that even if we want to change we might not be able to put together the weapons to be able to facilitate that which could become a vicious cycle of sorts

puts a lot of pressure on finding receiving weapons (emphasis on the plural) in the draft

It’s because WRs are fully aware that they won’t reach their potential in this offense. And Baltimore has a piss poor history of receivers, so it’s not like we can point out tradition at the position either. It’s quite literally WR hell here

 

[rossihunter2]

It’s because WRs are fully aware that they won’t reach their potential in this offense. And Baltimore has a piss poor history of receivers, so it’s not like we can point out tradition at the position either. It’s quite literally WR hell here

definitely - the only way to fix it at this point has to be to draft our way out of it...

the more i think about it, the more i'm assuming that's why new england had to overpay a ton of receivers this offseason - to make sure they got decent talents there despite having a similarly non-productive passing offence

we dont have the cap space to do that - so our only option is to draft well at that position (the thing that we've not shown the ability to do yet in our organisation's history)

 

[ndub]

definitely - the only way to fix it at this point has to be to draft our way out of it...

the more i think about it, the more i'm assuming that's why new england had to overpay a ton of receivers this offseason - to make sure they got decent talents there despite having a similarly non-productive passing offence

we dont have the cap space to do that - so our only option is to draft well at that position (the thing that we've not shown the ability to do yet in our organisation's history)

Hopefully this is our year. We may eventually end up requiring a big structural change once Lamar’s contract comes up

 

[rossihunter2]

Hopefully this is our year. We may eventually end up requiring a big structural change once Lamar’s contract comes up

naturally we're going to start seeing more money on offence rather than defence - we're already paying a LT and almost certainly will be paying big money to the QB and TE too - we're paying 1 RG right now ok money, and another TE good money

possibility we try and retain bozeman too, ricard would need a new deal and also Gus if we want to keep him beyond 2021 (not a given)

calais campbell and brandon williams contracts both run out next year - we'd still be paying Humphrey and Peters big money and Clark and Wolfe a modest deal each but Tavon Young might be on the cutting block and other than that not much more money being spent on the defence

would be a complete flip in terms of spending position-wise

 

[Simba]

definitely - the only way to fix it at this point has to be to draft our way out of it...

the more i think about it, the more i'm assuming that's why new england had to overpay a ton of receivers this offseason - to make sure they got decent talents there despite having a similarly non-productive passing offence

we dont have the cap space to do that - so our only option is to draft well at that position (the thing that we've not shown the ability to do yet in our organisation's history)

Draft or trade are really the only options. And I almost think you have to lean to a trade to get actual NFL caliber. Hollywood is the only WR of note so hard to trust the drafting process as well.

 

[JAAM]

Draft or trade are really the only options. And I almost think you have to lean to a trade to get actual NFL caliber. Hollywood is the only WR of note so hard to trust the drafting process as well.

With the space we opened up, I honestly think it’s a lot likely we make a deal for a proven commodity, a la Boldin way back when. We would’ve signed Watkins today if we were absolutely content with him and Hollywood and whatever rookie we hopefully bring in. At this point, I honestly think EDC has something cooking

 

[JoeyFlex5]

I don't think it's as big as you make it out to be. Like I understand that Myles Boykins didn't live up to expectations but if you watch tape the guy was open more than Ravens fans may believe.. Lamar Jackson at times just simply ignore him but he also ignored Seth Roberts whom you claim was better even though stats may say other wise. Like the hate for Boykins is some what weird because his situations is sooo different from Tandon Doss or Deonte Thompson. It's like Ravens fans still remember those receivers in 2013 and just don't expect Boykins to even get better base off of past receivers. It's even crazy cause he showed more than Devin Duvernay but yet Duvernay is looked upon as future star or something.

I just don't understand why he is counted out so much but it is what its. Hopefully Keith Williams and Tee Martin can help him tremendously though.

To be clear I don’t count duvernay as a future star lol, he’s a track speed guy who’s got an absolute fuckload of developing to do.

and Boykin has the physical ability, he just seriously lacks something and I’m just not convinced he can suddenly gain it, his foot never appears to be on the gas, he doesn’t attack the ball nor does he attack the areas of the field he should, also he does run a lot of clear routes that are deep and late in the progression and Lamar had little time to throw often this year

With the space we opened up, I honestly think it’s a lot likely we make a deal for a proven commodity, a la Boldin way back when. We would’ve signed Watkins today if we were absolutely content with him and Hollywood and whatever rookie we hopefully bring in. At this point, I honestly think EDC has something cooking

I agree entirely, that was a pretty hefty amount of cap space being cleared. I think Eric is trying to get a lot of trade talks going and seeing where he thinks he can work out a deal, it may not happen but I can just about guarantee he’s exploring trades right now but is hoping Sammy comes through.

 

[Simba]

With the space we opened up, I honestly think it’s a lot likely we make a deal for a proven commodity, a la Boldin way back when. We would’ve signed Watkins today if we were absolutely content with him and Hollywood and whatever rookie we hopefully bring in. At this point, I honestly think EDC has something cooking

I'll reiterate again, the Campbell and Williams moves were made before FA it sounds like. The NFLPA just updated the figures yesterday for the first time since FA started for all teams. It gives us room to play but it's not like it was done yesterday with the sole purpose of an addition coming in.

 

[ndub]

I'll reiterate again, the Campbell and Williams moves were made before FA it sounds like. The NFLPA just updated the figures yesterday for the first time since FA started for all teams. It gives us room to play but it's not like it was done yesterday with the sole purpose of an addition coming in.

Stop ruining the fun, esse.... haha just kidding man

 

[JAAM]

I'll reiterate again, the Campbell and Williams moves were made before FA it sounds like. The NFLPA just updated the figures yesterday for the first time since FA started for all teams. It gives us room to play but it's not like it was done yesterday with the sole purpose of an addition coming in.

You need to knock it off with your good points

 

[JoeyFlex5]

I'll reiterate again, the Campbell and Williams moves were made before FA it sounds like. The NFLPA just updated the figures yesterday for the first time since FA started for all teams. It gives us room to play but it's not like it was done yesterday with the sole purpose of an addition coming in.

Again it could be that they cleared up that space at any point because they were planning on being aggressive for either a WR or an edge

 

[Davesta]

Again it could be that they cleared up that space at any point because they were planning on being aggressive for either a WR or an edge

At this point, give me Clowney on a 1-year deal. He might not get the sack stats, but he shuts down 1 side of the field in the run game. Going up against the Chubb-Hunt duo and knowing that the Steelers are going to have to build that run game up to protect Big Ben’s noodle arm, having one of the better edge setter isn’t a bad thing.

I know he’s injury prone, but we kept anti-masker Steve Saunders after that blunder for a reason. He might be oblivious when it comes to certain things, but he knows how to keep them soft tissue injuries in check.

LFG!! (I’m desperate and tilting for any FA news)

 

[Davesta]

Boykin has the physical ability, he just seriously lacks something and I’m just not convinced he can suddenly gain it, his foot never appears to be on the gas, he doesn’t attack the ball nor does he attack the areas of the field he should, also he does run a lot of clear routes that are deep and late in the progression and Lamar had little time to throw often this year

I know boykin ran a 4.42 in the underwear olympics, but he looks like he runs a 4.6 and rocking cleats made of out concrete with pads on.