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The 2022 Offseason Thread

Davesta

Ravens Ring of Honor


Saw this segment on YouTube. That whole shit felt like a hit piece. Pointing out all negatives with no context. ESPN so lame
 

UPennChem

Hall of Famer
Pretty nervous for Duv honestly. He played in 49% of the offensive snaps last year. We keep saying like the young guys need opportunities. You've gotta let them play. And that's true.... Undoubtedly, but that doesn't apply to Duv. He was really given a chance and did almost nothing with it.

I posted those efficiency stats a little while ago. Proche was making much more of his opportunities compared to Duv.

I expect Bateman to take a step. I expect Proche to take a step. I believe Wallace can be a good WR3 in this league. Maybe even a WR2 in a few years time. His college tape was crazy.

I just fear that in the very beginning of the year we'll be ok at WR, but similarly to the OL last year, a single injury and the whole unit is decimated.

Even if you primarily want to play the young guys first, you need a veteran for depth.
 

UPennChem

Hall of Famer
The only other position we don't have a huge amount of depth at is EDGE. But ultimately even that isn't too bad.

Oweh
Bowser
Hayes
Ferguson
Ojabo
And we'll add Houston

Between Oweh, Houston, and Bowser we largely know what we're going to get out of them. And it's also possible the younger guys improve and the defenssive system under MM helps them as well. If we get anything out of Hayes that's an improvement from last year. If we get anything out of Ferg that's an improvement. If we get anything out of Ojabo that's an improvement. We just need 1 more year of Houston to help us transition.

Feeling really good about the whole roster other than WR.
 

Deebo813

Hall of Famer
yeah they had it in peter king's article and then you can see the conversation he had with pepe in the draft room when we picked him in a few places including the draft "wired" episode

but EDC clearly trusts and respects him a lot - blackburn, as you say, literally petitioned for EDC to draft Pepe the morning of day 3 (before the 4th round began) and again in the draft room when the board was thinning at the end of R4 and while day 3 is normally "scouts day", it's a pretty big deal to actually put your faith in someone like that
Who is pepe
 

UPennChem

Hall of Famer
Should we be legitimately concerned that JK and Gus won't start the year and that JK in particular will never be the same? The BR.com article had some quotes from the former Chargers head physician that sounded very doom and gloom.

The answer to that question aside, why are doctors commenting on specific peoples injuries when they aren't even their patients? Its just dumb because even JK's doctor wouldn't comment because that would be against the law. Then you're gonna have some rando doctor comment from the peanut gallery as if he could possibly know what's going on in JK's situation in particular. I understand the guy has seen a lot of similar things and could possibly have some useful trend information to provide, but it feels really dumb and undoctor like. idk
 

JoeyFlex5

Hall of Famer
Should we be legitimately concerned that JK and Gus won't start the year and that JK in particular will never be the same? The BR.com article had some quotes from the former Chargers head physician that sounded very doom and gloom.

The answer to that question aside, why are doctors commenting on specific peoples injuries when they aren't even their patients? Its just dumb because even JK's doctor wouldn't comment because that would be against the law. Then you're gonna have some rando doctor comment from the peanut gallery as if he could possibly know what's going on in JK's situation in particular. I understand the guy has seen a lot of similar things and could possibly have some useful trend information to provide, but it feels really dumb and undoctor like. idk
I think dobbins is gonna have to embrace a more power centric style over his lightning quick and explosive style. Find it hard to believe he’ll have the same explosion and flexibility after this, it was a NASTY injury.

Good thing is I think dobbins has enough .
 

Davesta

Ravens Ring of Honor
I think dobbins is gonna have to embrace a more power centric style over his lightning quick and explosive style. Find it hard to believe he’ll have the same explosion and flexibility after this, it was a NASTY injury.

Good thing is I think dobbins has enough .

Bijan Robinson 2023 Draft.

The JK-Bijan duo would be magical.
 

RavensMania

Staff Member
Administrator
I think dobbins is gonna have to embrace a more power centric style over his lightning quick and explosive style. Find it hard to believe he’ll have the same explosion and flexibility after this, it was a NASTY injury.

Good thing is I think dobbins has enough .
he's young and could very well still get his explosion back. Could take an additional season though, but will still be effective this season.
 

RavensMania

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Administrator
I hope yall are right. The stupid doc cites Barkleys drop off and he was better than JK pre injury.
scheme is completely different and they had a very bad run blocking scheme. Can't compare the two

Plenty of running backs have been able to get back there explosion, especially younger backs with a full year to heal. It's not like we are rushing him back.
 

rossihunter2

Staff Member
Moderator
Should we be legitimately concerned that JK and Gus won't start the year and that JK in particular will never be the same? The BR.com article had some quotes from the former Chargers head physician that sounded very doom and gloom.

The answer to that question aside, why are doctors commenting on specific peoples injuries when they aren't even their patients? Its just dumb because even JK's doctor wouldn't comment because that would be against the law. Then you're gonna have some rando doctor comment from the peanut gallery as if he could possibly know what's going on in JK's situation in particular. I understand the guy has seen a lot of similar things and could possibly have some useful trend information to provide, but it feels really dumb and undoctor like. idk

wait is this the same former chargers physician who punctured tyrod taylor's lung?
or is it the twitter one who's been sued multiple times for malpractice and negligence by both players and other athletes and at one point the NFLPA stepped in to demand a review of his credentials?

i get being skeptical of JK's recovery timeline and there are some stats that do suggest that the injury will impact his explosion and longevity
but also it's impossible to know that until he gets on the field - he will likely struggle early in the season but i'd expect him to improve as he gets further and further away from the injury
 

UPennChem

Hall of Famer
wait is this the same former chargers physician who punctured tyrod taylor's lung?
or is it the twitter one who's been sued multiple times for malpractice and negligence by both players and other athletes and at one point the NFLPA stepped in to demand a review of his credentials?

i get being skeptical of JK's recovery timeline and there are some stats that do suggest that the injury will impact his explosion and longevity
but also it's impossible to know that until he gets on the field - he will likely struggle early in the season but i'd expect him to improve as he gets further and further away from the injury
Yikes to the first part of that hahaha. I hope he comes back strong. So sad for running backs to get these injuries which can dreail careers.

I mean there are Cam Akers types, but then there are Tod Gurley types. I hope JK is more like Cam. He was just getting started
 

rossihunter2

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Moderator
Yikes to the first part of that hahaha. I hope he comes back strong. So sad for running backs to get these injuries which can dreail careers.

I mean there are Cam Akers types, but then there are Tod Gurley types. I hope JK is more like Cam. He was just getting started

for what it's worth, todd gurley had a degenerative knee condition even before he was drafted that made his earlier than normal career derailment inevitable

akers was an achilles which is interesting because it used to be that the achilles was the tricky one and the ACL the "easy" one, but it seems there have been some significant leaps regarding the achilles - akers was surprising (especially with how explosive he looked on his return), but achilles recovery times have been coming down and been garnering better results (justice hill is already a full participant in practice despite being injured within the same week as the other 2 ravens RBs

i can buy that with the LCL involved in JK's tear as well that maybe he might take a little longer but i would be surprised if Gus isn't ready for at least some snaps by week 1
 

UPennChem

Hall of Famer
for what it's worth, todd gurley had a degenerative knee condition even before he was drafted that made his earlier than normal career derailment inevitable

akers was an achilles which is interesting because it used to be that the achilles was the tricky one and the ACL the "easy" one, but it seems there have been some significant leaps regarding the achilles - akers was surprising (especially with how explosive he looked on his return), but achilles recovery times have been coming down and been garnering better results (justice hill is already a full participant in practice despite being injured within the same week as the other 2 ravens RBs

i can buy that with the LCL involved in JK's tear as well that maybe he might take a little longer but i would be surprised if Gus isn't ready for at least some snaps by week 1
If Gus is a full go week 1 and looks like himself, and you've got something good between Badie, Hill, and Davis, they should ease JK back in.
 

rossihunter2

Staff Member
Moderator
If Gus is a full go week 1 and looks like himself, and you've got something good between Badie, Hill, and Davis, they should ease JK back in.

they should ease him in anyway even if they're not tbh

it's why i think maybe odell could be the guy if we're confident in his recovery... we're not going to be fully healthy to begin the year because we've got so many guys coming off injuries (and just drafted Ojabo too)
 
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