BoredMarine13
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lol your signature block, you are too much man
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rmcjacket23
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I mean I like a lot of what PFF does, but I'm also not sure how they graded "missed assignments", because they basically have to assume what the coverage call is and the design of it, which they probably can't or won't do.
If we're talking just straight coverage skills or tackling ability, I thought Hamilton was pretty good. If the Ravens won 35-21 like they probably should have, the narrative on Hamilton is that he played pretty well.
But in some regards, its almost pass/fail, fair or unfair. Assuming he's the main culprit in the breakdown of coverage on the Hill layup TD, that single play has the ability to largely negate many other positive outcomes, because of the magnitude of the play and the impact it has on the game.
Not all plays are created equal, which has been the "faultiness" in PFF rankings and grades for many years now. They tend to grade players by treating every play individually the same in terms of magnitude, impact on the game, etc. It's why you see significant deviations in Oline grades between PFF and others, because others view pass protection as significantly more impactful than run blocking.
ndub
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Signature block?
And that's fair but as you alluded to, it's correctable. Just seems to be some baseless ass thought that the dude is a bust based on that in GAME 2 of his career. If anyone actually watched the game, you could see that he has the skillset to last a very long time in this league. People falling on that optics sword. It was a bad game but it's not close to defining his career despite what some people seem to think.
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unfortunately this is really accurate.
ndub
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Hamilton and McDonald can go F themselves
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Well my momma always taught me to tell the truth…..
rmcjacket23
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Who knew fans overreact to the most recent thing they saw. That's weird...
the 1 on JAD was a miscommunication somewhere - probably hamilton got it wrong but he didnt misplay the coverage in the sense that he got the play wrong, just looks like he thinks he had marcus williams role in that play when he probably had the hill half of a cover 2 split safety - if youre a coach and you see him lined up wrong there you have to call the timeout
and if that's what the call actually was then that's a borderline fireable offence because no way you should be expecting any safety to get over the top of tyreek hill on a go-route from the middle of the field at the LoS - or it was Pepe who was playing single-high with tyreek hill left on an island and waddle doubled by the safeties... in which case pepe should have been shading towards JAD and not to the other side like he did (which is what makes it very much look like it's supposed to be split safety)
the other TD over Peters was probably half on him, half on peters - peters didnt look like he respected the vertical route at all and hamilton was too confident about his ability to get over the top and didnt respect the vertical enough - looked like he lost waddle in his reads - peters has to know that that route is right in the blindspot of the middle safety in that cover 3 (looked like a botched cover 3 to me)
they were both supposed to stay over the top of that vertical and neither of them respected the route or tua's ability to hit it
didn't she tell you to be logical also
JO_75
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Tua's odds of winning MVP went up, which is funny lol. He couldn't do nothing 3/4 of the game and it wasn't until we had our miscommunications their offense was doing something. Like a real QB doesn't need to wait for a defense to have communication issues, they know how to beat it from the start.
SepticeyePoe
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there are very few rookies who are doing well right now in major roles:
Travon Walker
Aidan Hutchinson
Sauce Gardner
Charles Cross?
Chris Olave
Jahan Dotson
Zion Johnson?
Tyler Linderbaum? (for context Linderbaum was probably the most impressive rookie OL through the first 2 weeks)
George Karlaftis
Dylan Parham?
Kyle Phillips
Malcolm Rodriguez
maybe only jahan dotson who's truly dominating right now as an instant impact rookie
everyone else has been underwhelming or a role player
ndub
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Garrett Wilson had 2 TDs this past week
And I believe in our forum mock, I drafted Malcom Rodriguez for the Bengals… hmmm
if i was only talking about stats then all sorts of other guys would be on this list
garrett wilson flashed, a week after barely impacting a game
if we count garrett wilson then we probably have to count drake london, kyle hamilton, jordan davis and a bunch of other rookies who've played well in fits and starts but not been consistent yet
ndub
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Kyle Hamilton…. Hahaha why? Because of his countless tackles or INTS?
Dom McRaven
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Fam, why you so extra about Hamilton? LMAO. Let's just give it time.
ndub
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Because certain few overrate him
Dom McRaven
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To what extent though? Unless I missed it (which is fine if I did), I don't think folks were calling him the best safety in the league right out of the gate or the greatest safety of all time.