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The 1st half, The Refs and The Collapse

Tank

Hall of Famer
It is like the injuries though, it just feels like this team has a curse on it and we will continue to be jinxed if we don’t take the points. I said after the Dolphins loss that I hoped Harbs learned a big lesson. That SOB is the most stubborn asshole I have ever seen. He refuses to learn his lesson and I believe we will continue to be jinxed because of it.
I think the whole organization is all in on the analytics train, not just Harbs. They’re gonna follow the numbers no matter what.
 

JO_75

Hall of Famer


so not an extra presser - just some sort of announcement at the end

John: Hey Jim, take Macdonald back.

Jim:

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cobrajet

Hall of Famer
I think the whole organization is all in on the analytics train, not just Harbs. They’re gonna follow the numbers no matter what.
And they are constantly running that train off the rails. Analytics is not accounting for our jinx at the one yard line.
 

drjohnnyfever

Pro Bowler
the players will all be behind him going for it
they're always gonna want the game left in their hands in those scenarios

...but he took it out of the DEF's hands when he opted for going for it and not taking the points. This is what makes no sense to me with these "analytic" decisions Harbs makes. He might be placing confidence in one area of the team - the OFF by doing it, but he's taking away from SpTeams and clearly saying we have little confidence in our DEF. I'm uncertain how 2/3 of the team would be behind such a decision when from what we see - as this isn't the first time this has come up - those decisions - particularly in make or break situations - fail. I'm not so certain the players always agree and Peters' reaction could speak volumes about that.
 

rossihunter2

Staff Member
Moderator
...but he took it out of the DEF's hands when he opted for going for it and not taking the points. This is what makes no sense to me with these "analytic" decisions Harbs makes. He might be placing confidence in one area of the team - the OFF by doing it, but he's taking away from SpTeams and clearly saying we have little confidence in our DEF. I'm uncertain how 2/3 of the team would be behind such a decision when from what we see - as this isn't the first time this has come up - those decisions - particularly in make or break situations - fail. I'm not so certain the players always agree and Peters' reaction could speak volumes about that.

defence's job doesnt change with his decision
they still have to get a stop

and most of them will take it as trusting them that if we dont get it, he's confident they'll stop them - and if they do get it they'd rather be defending a 7 point lead than a 3 point lead
 

drjohnnyfever

Pro Bowler
Yeah I just can't agree he goes for 7 if he trusts the defense
I think you misunderstood me. He needed to TRUST the DEF and take the FG. But he put his trust in the OFF instead; which is what he does. I think he should have taken the points and trusted the DEF. If nothing else changed, the game goes to OT. But that's making additional assumptions. Who knows? I take the points and hope the DEF can hold. I think it's a weakness of Harbs' that he goes to the well so often and meets with similar failure.
 

BoredMarine13

Ravens Ring of Honor
Queen is definitely done. He won't even get the 5th year option.
So frustrating , kid is incredibly gifted athletically. Just seems lost out there
 

drjohnnyfever

Pro Bowler
defence's job doesnt change with his decision
they still have to get a stop

and most of them will take it as trusting them that if we dont get it, he's confident they'll stop them - and if they do get it they'd rather be defending a 7 point lead than a 3 point lead
I guess, perhaps, but I don't think you can deny that it could be interpreted as a lack of confidence and that could be deflating too. I just think it was a bad decision. I seem to always be on the side of taking points while others are ok with not. Which is ok. It's all just opinion.
 
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