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JAAM

JAAM

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Mainejet said:
So the question is... do you think the Ravens are up to the task of beating the Bucs? Brady and the Bucs suck ass right now and that's a fact, but to believe that's all there is to it is incredibly naive. That team could explode any moment. If that happens I don't believe the Ravens have a shot especially when your QB is being so careless with the football.

You guys can complain all you want about Zach Wilson and for the most part I would agree. However, Zach does NOT turn the football over. Very, VERY little at least since late season. That's the reason why the Jets have now won 4 straight. The Jets play good defense, they play smashmouth football on offense, and they ask Zach to simply manage the game. Not turning the ball over is HUGE and it can't be underemphasized.

IMO, if the Ravens want to start being considered a legit SB contender you need LJ to stop being so careless with the football. Even then, I'm not sure that's enough to beat a fully functional Bucs team but it's an excellent start.....
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Excellent insight coming from the one who is always fishing for compliments on here. You beat a bunch of nobodies, get over it. You make me hate the Jets more and more each time you post something new
 
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Mainejet

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rmcjacket23 said:
Lets revisit the whole "Wilson doesn't turn the football over" thing in about 6 weeks. I'm highly confident that statement won't be accurate at that point.
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Regardless if you believe it or not, Zach has turned the ball over two times in 9 games. The last 5 games of last season he didn't throw a single interception. 4 games into this season when Zach started he threw two interceptions against Pittsburgh and hasn't turned it over a single time since. 2 interceptions in 9 straight games. Now we'll see if he can keep it up but that's not the point anyway. This is about the Ravens and I think the example of Zach Wilson is a useful one for LJ....
 
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Mainejet

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UPennChem said:
The moment your running game falls apart without Breece Hall and your in obvious passing downs more often, Wilson will likely throw a lot of interceptions. Hopefully your trade can mitigate that from happening but who knows.
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Well, that's the challenge for Zach going forward. No argument from me....
 
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Mainejet

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JAAM said:
Excellent insight coming from the one who is always fishing for compliments on here. You beat a bunch of nobodies, get over it. You make me hate the Jets more and more each time you post something new
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Well, they've got Buffalo coming up. That'll be a real challenge. I would say NE is this weekend. Jets haven't beaten NE in 6 years. But given the fact that NE looks like a train wreck right now, the victory (if they win) will hold a lot of importance for the Jets and their fans but not so much for the football world. But then again I get the impression that regardless of who the Jets beat you'd never be happy for them....
 
Simba

Simba

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Mainejet said:
Regardless if you believe it or not, Zach has turned the ball over two times in 9 games. The last 5 games of last season he didn't throw a single interception. 4 games into this season when Zach started he threw two interceptions against Pittsburgh and hasn't turned it over a single time since. 2 interceptions in 9 straight games. Now we'll see if he can keep it up but that's not the point anyway. This is about the Ravens and I think the example of Zach Wilson is a useful one for LJ....
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You're comfortable with a QB completing 57% of his passes for only 1 TD along with that? If that's the pat on the back you need, here it is brother
 
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Mainejet

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And to add a little context to your claims. LJ has thrown the ball a total of 177 times in his 7 starts this season that averages out to be somewhere between 25 and 26 times per game. Zach Wilson has started 4 games and has thrown the ball on average almost the EXACT same amount of times. The Jets have also faced a few similar foes. Steelers and Miami. Zach faced the very SAME defense in Pitt and Miami as the Ravens did and yet the turnovers committed by LJ vs Zach are very, very different. I would submit that's the EXACT reason why the Ravens are not considered to be a contender right now....
 
Militant X 1

Militant X 1

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Mainejet said:
So the question is... do you think the Ravens are up to the task of beating the Bucs? Brady and the Bucs suck ass right now and that's a fact, but to believe that's all there is to it is incredibly naive. That team could explode any moment. If that happens I don't believe the Ravens have a shot especially when your QB is being so careless with the football.

You guys can complain all you want about Zach Wilson and for the most part I would agree. However, Zach does NOT turn the football over. Very, VERY little at least since late season. That's the reason why the Jets have now won 4 straight. The Jets play good defense, they play smashmouth football on offense, and they ask Zach to simply manage the game. Not turning the ball over is HUGE and it can't be underemphasized.

IMO, if the Ravens want to start being considered a legit SB contender you need LJ to stop being so careless with the football. Even then, I'm not sure that's enough to beat a fully functional Bucs team but it's an excellent start.....
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Wait! Who let a j.e.t.s. fan in here? This is laughable!
 
Simba

Simba

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Mainejet said:
And to add a little context to your claims. LJ has thrown the ball a total of 177 times in his 7 starts this season that averages out to be somewhere between 25 and 26 times per game. Zach Wilson has started 4 games and has thrown the ball on average almost the EXACT same amount of times. The Jets have also faced a few similar foes. Steelers and Miami. Zach faced the very SAME defense in Pitt and Miami as the Ravens did and yet the turnovers committed by LJ vs Zach are very, very different. I would submit that's the EXACT reason why the Ravens are not considered to be a contender right now....
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We haven’t played the Steelers yet and Jackson threw for 3 TDs and 0 INTs against Miami…
 
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Mainejet

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Simba said:
You're comfortable with a QB completing 57% of his passes for only 1 TD along with that? If that's the pat on the back you need, here it is brother
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Did you hear me say that? Did you see where I said your criticisms of Zach are pretty much mine from top to bottom. The TURNOVERS are a huge difference and that's exactly my point. You're getting lost in the weeds. Just because I'm saying something you clear do not want to read, doesn't mean it's wrong....
 
JAAM

JAAM

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RavensMania

RavensMania

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Mainejet said:
And to add a little context to your claims. LJ has thrown the ball a total of 177 times in his 7 starts this season that averages out to be somewhere between 25 and 26 times per game. Zach Wilson has started 4 games and has thrown the ball on average almost the EXACT same amount of times. The Jets have also faced a few similar foes. Steelers and Miami. Zach faced the very SAME defense in Pitt and Miami as the Ravens did and yet the turnovers committed by LJ vs Zach are very, very different. I would submit that's the EXACT reason why the Ravens are not considered to be a contender right now....
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Jets played Miami without Tua and we haven't played the Steelers yet. BTW, this is a week to week league. It doesn't matter if you beat them one week and we lost to them the other week. That doesn't decide who is better.

We beat you week 1 and yes you didn't have Wilson, but we would have smothered Wilson and we were injured then also, so don't go with the fact that you didn't have him.
 
Dom McRaven

Dom McRaven

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Simba said:
Anyways, the Bucs are officially down some key pieces.

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Despite this, I still don't believe our offense will take advantage of this. They just get in their own way.

EDIT: For the love of God, PLEASE give Lamar some easy passes to start out the game for no other reason just to get him into a rhythm. Lamar also needs to take the checkdown if that's the only option presented.
 
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