Lamar Jackson

[BoredMarine13]

Interesting read https://sports.yahoo.com/lying-tamp...ound-off-on-lamar-jackson-mess-141825777.html

 

[drjohnnyfever]

I haven't seen this posted yet, but I might have missed it. Good read. Yahoo article. Link below.

Lying, Tampering, and Compromise

 

[Dom McRaven]

I haven't seen this posted yet, but I might have missed it. Good read. Yahoo article. Link below.

Lying, Tampering, and Compromise

Uhhh look at one post above yours LMAO.

 

[Tank]

Interesting read https://sports.yahoo.com/lying-tamp...ound-off-on-lamar-jackson-mess-141825777.html

Yeah, all they are saying has been obviously apparent from the beginning. Experience and connections are key when negotiating with people that deal at this level as the norm. In trying to save $, Lamar has lost way more than the 1% to 3% he would have paid an agent to negotiate a solid deal for him. I keep repeating it, but the dude got terrible advice from someone.

 

[Davesta]

This is a pretty good listen. One where a team could trade for Lamar without having to give up two 1st. Pretty much trading for his rights. Didn’t even think about that

 

[RaineV1]

I feel like the only way a team could actually get Lamar is to set up the contract while also doing a trade deal with the Ravens. If the Ravens aren't get something extra they'll just match the deal and keep him. However a handshake agreement can be in place. Ravens match the offer and then trade for the full deal.

 

[JO_75]

So Geno's deal with Seattle is essentially a one year deal. Daniel Jones getting $82M in the first two years of his deal. Wonder how we structured Lamar's offers is also why he was told to turn us down.

 

[Thezone27]

Uhhh look at one post above yours LMAO.

I blocked twitter tbf

 

[Thezone27]

So Geno's deal with Seattle is essentially a one year deal. Daniel Jones getting $82M in the first two years of his deal. Wonder how we structured Lamar's offers is also why he was told to turn us down.

Woah. Dannay Dimes is WAAAYYYYY overpaid

 

[Deebo813]

Every defender in the league is like “bruh what the fuck is happening here?” While fans and execs are like “HES NOT WORTH WHAT HES ASKING”

If he could move like how he does now 4yrs from now… everyone knows he would be worth it but at same time i think thats what so concerning for some.. will his arm talent ever catch up?

 

[JoeyFlex5]

If he could move like how he does now 4yrs from now… everyone knows he would be worth it but at same time i think thats what so concerning for some.. will his arm talent ever catch up?

I feel like Lamar’s arm talent is already there, and Lamar is going to lose his long speed but I don’t think Lamar is as much of a run first qb these days, 4 years from now I believe Lamar’s pocket presence and maneuverability is gonna be even better than it is now and yeah he’s gonna lose a step of speed but I also think Lamar’s arm talent concerns are overblown, so many of our concerns with Lamar, are concerns that we don’t know yet if they’re even Lamar’s fault, Greg Roman and the supporting cast on offense have been a problem for 3 years now and we have watched Lamar carry the offense anyway, on arm and legs.

 

[SaltyDog]

Yeah, all they are saying has been obviously apparent from the beginning. Experience and connections are key when negotiating with people that deal at this level as the norm. In trying to save $, Lamar has lost way more than the 1% to 3% he would have paid an agent to negotiate a solid deal for him. I keep repeating it, but the dude got terrible advice from someone.

Exactly why players hire agents. Lamar is in way over his head, it would seem.

 

[rossihunter2]

I feel like Lamar’s arm talent is already there, and Lamar is going to lose his long speed but I don’t think Lamar is as much of a run first qb these days, 4 years from now I believe Lamar’s pocket presence and maneuverability is gonna be even better than it is now and yeah he’s gonna lose a step of speed but I also think Lamar’s arm talent concerns are overblown, so many of our concerns with Lamar, are concerns that we don’t know yet if they’re even Lamar’s fault, Greg Roman and the supporting cast on offense have been a problem for 3 years now and we have watched Lamar carry the offense anyway, on arm and legs.

also we saw him take measures that seemingly on purpose notably took some long speed away

as long as his short-area explosion, change of direction and agility remain he's going to be a threat for years to come

we saw him get caught from behind a little more this year but was still a very very very dangerous runner - and that was just because he put some weight on to try and help his ability to stand in the pocket and take hits

 

[Tank]

do people realize you can both respect a generational players ability to make plays running and throwing while also acknowledging that getting hit more often will result in more injuries wether they are in the pocket or not?

No doubt, it’s football. And the injury in 2021 wasn’t really a hit, more of a trip from behind. It was strange it kept him out the remainder of season. It’s hard not to think Lamar may not be the most durable player regardless of circumstance or injury luck.

 

[RavensMania]

you do. MODS!!! lol

when ... is in a tweet I refrain from posting. Who puts a team on the list that doesn't have a 1st round pick. That would eliminate them from contention.

 

[rossihunter2]

No doubt, it’s football. And the injury in 2021 wasn’t really a hit, more of a trip from behind. It was strange it kept him out the remainder of season. It’s hard not to think Lamar may not be the most durable player regardless of circumstance or injury luck.

it was a hit in the sense that the defender landed on his ankle...
not really a trip in the sense of where the injury actually came from

 

[BoredMarine13]

I feel like Lamar’s arm talent is already there, and Lamar is going to lose his long speed but I don’t think Lamar is as much of a run first qb these days, 4 years from now I believe Lamar’s pocket presence and maneuverability is gonna be even better than it is now and yeah he’s gonna lose a step of speed but I also think Lamar’s arm talent concerns are overblown, so many of our concerns with Lamar, are concerns that we don’t know yet if they’re even Lamar’s fault, Greg Roman and the supporting cast on offense have been a problem for 3 years now and we have watched Lamar carry the offense anyway, on arm and legs.

Footwork has always been his issue. He really worked on it and improved but it comes out a lot when he’s flustered

 

[Tank]

it was a hit in the sense that the defender landed on his ankle...
not really a trip in the sense of where the injury actually came from

Maybe a little, but really didn't look like much.

 

[ravenslord]

Why is Miami generating a lot of cap space room right now ? Are they gonna make a play for Lamar?
That’s where Lamar wants to play anyway .

He doesn’t want to play here

 

[JoeyFlex5]

also we saw him take measures that seemingly on purpose notably took some long speed away

as long as his short-area explosion, change of direction and agility remain he's going to be a threat for years to come

we saw him get caught from behind a little more this year but was still a very very very dangerous runner - and that was just because he put some weight on to try and help his ability to stand in the pocket and take hits

I’m not super concerned about Lamar’s ability as he ages for these reasons, he seems to be evolving into a pocket passer little by little and he’s taking the right steps, first his mechanics, then his build, I think Lamar is just a wr and competent pass game designer from looking at least like a quality game manager from the pocket on a regular basis, where he separates himself is just off script he’s about as elite as anyone not named pat mahomes or Aaron Rodgers