Pass rush

[Grim]

maybe ive just been projecting on him but i thought he was fairly maligned before the steelers picked up his 5th year option

statistically this is by far his best year - he's already matched his career best sack total in half a season - i just dont know if i trust that increase in production because of the improved talent around him the past 2 years - you say that's when he's played better and maybe that's true but i also have to wonder if its not coincidental that that's when TJ Watt joined the team...

I think it’s definitely related to Watt emerging but I also think it’s more than that too. I don’t know if Dupree is really a top option but I think he’s a decent #2. It really depends on the deal he would get whether we should or shouldn’t entertain him. That’s my stance on it. We could do better and we could do a lot worse than him too. I’d say he’s better than everyone we had this year except Judon and that’s a bit debatable as well.

 

[rossihunter2]

I think it’s definitely related to Watt emerging but I also think it’s more than that too. I don’t know if Dupree is really a top option but I think he’s a decent #2. It really depends on the deal he would get whether we should or shouldn’t entertain him. That’s my stance on it. We could do better and we could do a lot worse than him too. I’d say he’s better than everyone we had this year except Judon and that’s a bit debatable as well.

my feeling is more like why would we pay dupree if we werent gonna pay ZDS

 

[allblackraven]

I think it’s definitely related to Watt emerging but I also think it’s more than that too. I don’t know if Dupree is really a top option but I think he’s a decent #2. It really depends on the deal he would get whether we should or shouldn’t entertain him. That’s my stance on it. We could do better and we could do a lot worse than him too. I’d say he’s better than everyone we had this year except Judon and that’s a bit debatable as well.

Judon is a much better player overall. Market would probably tell that, too but if we must choose between Judon and Dupree, I would have zero hesitation paying Matt.

 

[Grim]

Judon is a much better player overall. Market would probably tell that, too but if we must choose between Judon and Dupree, I would have zero hesitation paying Matt.

Oh for sure. Judon is a much more complete player, no doubt

 

[Grim]

my feeling is more like why would we pay dupree if we werent gonna pay ZDS

Good point. I’d agree with that, probably wouldn’t happen to be honest. I think Smith was better than Dupree personally so yeah, solid point

 

[JoeyFlex5]

maybe ive just been projecting on him but i thought he was fairly maligned before the steelers picked up his 5th year option

statistically this is by far his best year - he's already matched his career best sack total in half a season - i just dont know if i trust that increase in production because of the improved talent around him the past 2 years - you say that's when he's played better and maybe that's true but i also have to wonder if its not coincidental that that's when TJ Watt joined the team...

The criticism was very fair, but I believe this year and last he’s been much improved

 

[rossihunter2]

So maybe its coloured by how bad those two drives in the no huddle were but its surprising seeing takes like this on twitter with tape from someone i think of as a really good evaluator of ravens players

https://twitter.com/abukari/status/1192557190156029954

and obviously that's just one play but he's got it in him - and i think we'd be way more forgiving if some of jaylon's work in the passing game led to some finishes

 

[allblackraven]

So maybe its coloured by how bad those two drives in the no huddle were but its surprising seeing takes like this on twitter with tape from someone i think of as a really good evaluator of ravens players

https://twitter.com/abukari/status/1192557190156029954

and obviously that's just one play but he's got it in him - and i think we'd be way more forgiving if some of jaylon's work in the passing game led to some finishes

Yeah, my boy will be just fine.

 

[rossihunter2]

Yeah, my boy will be just fine.

i hope so - 4 of the guys i had in the pound the table thread in the draft section came to baltimore - hollywood, justice hill, antoine wesley and jaylon ferguson so id really appreciate jaylon getting me to at least 50% success lol