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  • Carlos Davis, DT/NT, Nebraska (EW)
  • Jack Driscoll, OT, Auburn (EW)
  • Darrynton Evans, RB, Appalachian State (COM)
  • Chris Finke, WR, Notre Dame (EW)
  • De'Jon Harris, ILB, Arkansas (COM)
  • Josh Jones, OT, Houston (VIR)
  • Azur Kamara, DL, Kansas (SR)
  • Terrell Lewis, DE/3-4OLB, Alabama (VIR)
  • Kenneth Murray, OLB/ILB, Oklahoma (PRI)
  • Sewo Olonilua, RB, TCU (VIR)
  • Shaquille Quarterman, ILB, Miami (EW)
  • Amik Robertson, CB, Louisiana Tech (COM)
  • Jon Runyan, OT, Michigan (EW)
  • Josh Uche, 3-4OLB/OLB, Michigan (COM)
all our confirmed meetings. Notice Murray was the only Private one? Must have been an early priority. Also read what eric is saying. clearly more high on murray than queen ( based on size and saying queen only really appeared on the map last year)

"It really just depends what flavor you like, Murray or Queen," DeCosta said during a Thursday conference call. "I think they're looked at side by side as probably two of the very best inside linebackers."


Inside linebacker is one of the Ravens' thinnest positions in the aftermath of Josh Bynes signing with the Cincinnati Bengals and Patrick Onwuasor signing with the New York Jets. There is obvious room for a three-down inside linebacker to fill the void left by C.J. Mosley, the four-time Pro Bowler who departed to the Jets in free agency last year.

It's possible the Ravens may find an inside linebacker later in the draft who can earn playing time as a situation player. DeCosta named inside linebacker as one of the draft's deeper positions. However, Murray and Queen are viewed as the inside linebackers with the potential to start from Day 1 as Mosley did as a rookie.

There's no doubt Murray would feel at home in Baltimore's locker room. He'd be the fifth Oklahoma player drafted by the Ravens over the past two years, joining Pro Bowl tight end Mark Andrews, Pro Bowl right tackle Orlando Brown Jr., wide receiver Marquise Brown and offensive lineman Ben Powers.

Tight end Mark Andrews gave his report on two of his former Oklahoma teammates, inside linebacker Kenneth Murray and wide receiver CeeDee Lamb.

Murray also has an incredible life story that leaves no doubt about his special character. He has saved a stranger's life by performing CPR, and he has three siblings with special needs.


However, drafting a defensive player from Oklahoma would be a different twist for the Ravens. The Sooners have struggled defensively in recent years and gave up 27.3 points per game last season, including three games in which they yielded at least 40 points. But Murray was by far Oklahoma's best defensive player with 102 tackles, 17 tackles for loss and four sacks. DeCosta has watched enough tape on Murray to know that he was special on a defense that wasn't.

"Tremendous athlete, a cerebral guy, he's got really good length," DeCosta said. "He's been a really good defensive player on a team that really hasn't had a lot of really good defensive players lately. He's a great student of the game, he's got great intangibles."

Murray (6-foot-2, 241 pounds) is more of a throwback linebacker, bigger than Queen (6-foot-0, 229 pounds) but also a playmaker. Queen was a little faster at the Scouting Combine, running a 4.50 in the 40-yard dash compared to 4.52 for Murray. They both suffered hamstring pulls.

DeCosta thinks Murray and Queen fit the mold of what NFL defenses are looking for, and he did not see Queen's size as a deterrent. He made 85 tackles including 12 for loss at LSU, showing his ability as a blitzer with three sacks while also excelling in pass coverage.


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LSU LB Patrick Queen never allowed a reception longer than 20 yards on 488 career coverage snaps.



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"Not as big as Murray, (but) very explosive," DeCosta said. "LSU has put a number of really good defensive players in the league over the last four or five years. He's a guy that's sideline to sideline, he can play downhill, he's a very good cover linebacker.

"He was not a household name before this year. He played his best football probably over the second half of the season, really good performances in the playoffs and national championship."

ESPN's Todd McShay says LSU linebacker Patrick Queen would be a 'perfect marriage of talent, value and need.'

Whether the Ravens draft Queen or Murray remains to be seen. But both players have the overall qualities NFL teams are looking for.

"I think the league has kind of morphed into more of a speed league in some respects, guys that can run, cover, and blitz and do all those things." DeCosta said. "But you also need a guy that can effectively play the run and take on guys. In a perfect world you'd like to have a bigger guy, but you're also looking for a bigger guy who can run."
We also met with another controversial prospect - Cameron Dantzler. 4.64 40.
I like his tape and I'm willing to spend one of our 3rds
 
We also met with another controversial prospect - Cameron Dantzler. 4.64 40.
I like his tape and I'm willing to spend one of our 3rds

he supposedly ran a 4.38 at his pro-day - but im never trusting that number

3rd round feels fair to me - bit of a risk but at that point maybe a risk worth taking
 
he supposedly ran a 4.38 at his pro-day - but im never trusting that number

3rd round feels fair to me - bit of a risk but at that point maybe a risk worth taking
Frame by frame shows it's likely a 4.55. Why do you think it's a risk? Proven SEC corner, barely allowed any TDs. His ball tracking skills aren't the best tho
 
Frame by frame shows it's likely a 4.55. Why do you think it's a risk? Proven SEC corner, barely allowed any TDs. His ball tracking skills aren't the best tho

we;ve never cared much for ball tracking skills in our corners. Aside from adding marcus peters last year, tracking skills goes against the CB preference we have had for years based on who we've been interested in and drafted over the years
 
Frame by frame shows it's likely a 4.55. Why do you think it's a risk? Proven SEC corner, barely allowed any TDs. His ball tracking skills aren't the best tho

because a 4.64 40 time almost never translates into good corner play - 40 times obviously arent everything but they do exist for a reason and often that's to see whether prospects reach a minimum benchmark

4.64 just doesnt cut it - that's why its a risk
 
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y’all wild af over there at TDN.

oh Mekhi becton and Andrew Thomas were on the board too.
 
we;ve never cared much for ball tracking skills in our corners. Aside from adding marcus peters last year, tracking skills goes against the CB preference we have had for years based on who we've been interested in and drafted over the years
This is a ridiculous statement.

btw, man corners play the. ball differently than zone corners.
 
This is a ridiculous statement.

btw, man corners play the. ball differently than zone corners.
He does have a point though. Probably was a bit too aggressive on it but he isnt lying.. other than tavon and now peters, we havent targeted cbs with good ball skills.. it seems like we target the same kind of cbs as alabama does
 
Ravens met with Patrick Queen (virtual) according to WF.
If either Murray or Queen are around say 22 or 23 I don't see us sitting still. My hunch is we trade up.
 
Ravens met with Patrick Queen (virtual) according to WF.
If either Murray or Queen are around say 22 or 23 I don't see us sitting still. My hunch is we trade up.
One of them is absolutely there around then. I suspect there is a chance one may even slide to us. However, I still think we take BPA at 28 and don't trade up. If anything if there are a bunch of equally graded positions when we pick and there is an available trade partner we trade back.
 
Tables will turn and people will love him once we draft him.. i actually dnt dislike him as much so my thoughts on him wont change if we draft him or not
He has a very high ceiling and has shown leadership in Oklahomas defense, but at this point, he's more athlete than football player. I'd prefer we don't draft an ILB in the first round, but if we did, I want Queen.
 
He has a very high ceiling and has shown leadership in Oklahomas defense, but at this point, he's more athlete than football player. I'd prefer we don't draft an ILB in the first round, but if we did, I want Queen.
Yea i rather draft a pass rusher which i think we will do.
 
I can only imagine the meltdown here if we trade up for Murray lol

I'm honestly expecting it at this point. He'll do fine here for sure I'm not worried bout that. The meltdown might be more worth it than any other player we can get lmao

Oh it's going to be horrific.

id implode for so many reasons
It's gonna be fucking glorious. Do you understand me (dislikes are welcome lol)?
 
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